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Dark_Feanor said: If we were to belive in ethomaz TRU FACTS PS4 would be more close to 4mi by now. But of corse, random twitter and anedoctal pics from random people are much more reliable than VGChartz, or NPD or any reasanble logic. |
Tagged for the truth and crow... it will be fun... it always is.
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Dark_Feanor said: There is nothing odd here. Sony said it would sell 3mi PS4 by the end of this year. They will sell 3mi nothing much more nor much less. I agree that there is a overtracking in PS4 some where. But not that significant for the big picture. No one will care for more or less 100k when we are targeting a 200mi life cycle market. The thing we can learn is that both PS4 andd XOne are selling much more closely than many would have expected (or hope?). |
Sony never said that... these 3 million come from analysts.
Sony is surprise but the the strong demand they faced with PS4... the 5 million for March is a low prediction already even for analysts.
PS4 is doing better than what VGC shows... way better.
GribbleGrunger said:
I don't think many people believe that target anymore. Sony have said they'll sell 5 million by March but I'm expecting at least 6 million. If Sony don't hit 3.5 - 3.7 million by the end of the year, I'd be surprised. |
They can´t sell what they can´t build.
It takes months to setup a prodution line and no decision can be taken lightly. Sony might now start to upgrade their plants and suply chain, but we will only see the effects by March.
But only if the demand is realy that high. And I don´t see the PS4 demand that high for now, not without games or any killer app and feature. January and February will be very slow for PS4 and XOne.
ethomaz said:
Sony never said that... these 3 million come from analysts. Sony is surprise but the the strong demand they faced with PS4... the 5 million for March is a low prediction already even for analysts. PS4 is doing better than what VGC shows... way better. |
Well, if the world is inside your head, may be it can sell 500Bi a day.
You just ignore every piece of evidence we have and go to your mystic land where every people on earth wanna and can buy a PS4 right now.
Read my other posts. There is nothing more I can say to you.
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Dark_Feanor said: Well, if the world is inside your head, may be it can sell 500Bi a day. You just ignore every piece of evidence we have and go to your mystic land where every people on earth wanna and can buy a PS4 right now. Read my other posts. There is nothing more I can say to you. |
Do you want to make a bet?
Eat crow coming soon.
And the evideces shows otherwise... France, Spain, UK, etc.
Neither of you have a clue! We have no idea how many Sony are gonna ship till they announce that in January, could be 3m, could be 4.5m.
I find the restocking argument frustrating. Yes, Sony can only sell as many consoles as they make, but production already started in Sep, so they would have already got 1 million units ready for the American release. We know that they can produce 1 million (perhaps less in Sep) a month, so taking the pre-stock into consideration, that would be 4 million by years end: Sep > October > November > December. I'm guessing 3.5 - 3.7 million by years end. This site is undertracking the PS4 by at least 250,000 - 300,000.
The PS5 Exists.
DerNebel said:
Horrible reasoning, just because people (aka some xbox fans on the internet) expect an official announcement from Sony for every million they sell, doesn't mean they'll get one. |
What is so horrible with that guess? What we know so far is:
- Sony predicted sales of 3 million by years end (which basically should be shipped=sell-through)
- Sony announced selling 1 million in 24 hours (NA)
- MS announced selling 1 million in 24 hours (13 countries)
- Sony announced selling 2.1 million worldwide since launch
- MS announced selling 2 million worldwide since launch.
They have both been adamant with announcing everything they have. Since we have had no announcements, what we CAN go by is Sonys prediction (sadly MS hasn´t given one) which is 3 million by years end, telling us VGC numbers are a bit too high right now.
PS4 is heavily undertracked, needs some major adjustments.
Sigs are dumb. And so are you!
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Puppyroach said: What is so horrible with that guess? What we know so far is: - Sony predicted sales of 3 million by years end (which basically should be shipped=sell-through) - Sony announced selling 1 million in 24 hours (NA) - MS announced selling 1 million in 24 hours (13 countries) - Sony announced selling 2.1 million worldwide since launch - MS announced selling 2 million worldwide since launch. They have both been adamant with announcing everything they have. Since we have had no announcements, what we CAN go by is Sonys prediction (sadly MS hasn´t given one) which is 3 million by years end, telling us VGC numbers are a bit too high right now. |
Fixed because they never did that.
BTW using the announces and the data from UK, France, Australia, Spain... Xbone didn't reach 2 million... PS4 did reach 2.1 million... funny... the 13 countries for Xbone makes even hard to believe in the 2 million because for that they need to be sold 300k or more in Brasil or any other LA countrie.
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