Ah yes, the extremely over hyped cloud that does nothing special.  With out it you can't... err... err... well there's nothing you can't do without it but MS is hopeful that they will find something.  Hosting services are not exclusive to MS.  Name one thing that Xbox Live Cloud does which developers can't do on PS4.

Don't PS4/XBO have the same ethernet cards? They should connect to your router equally as easily. As for your PS3, you should change the settings on your PS3.

Anyway, how can XB Live be the Killer Ap to "dethrone" the PS4 if it's older? If this ap were so killer, how did PS4 top XBO right off the bat? Why would an old "killer ap" top a newer one?

As for your post, complete non-sense. People will buy PS4 if that's what most people in the area have and same goes for 360. Since PS4 is outselling XBO, I would assume Canada, and the more populated coastal cities prefer PSN/PS4. However the Central and Southern States probably prefer XBO. No killer ap will change this, it's just some parts of USA prefer domestic products, and some people prefer the cheaper, better optimized for gaming platform.

Ok then yeah its definitely the games, fads and accessibility. America is a competitive country and the xbox is considered the competitive gaming console. It represents everything america stands for.

No, to be honest, there's a big Plus for MS, which is called LIVE. This new user interface from PS4 is crape as well, so unorganized.
Titanfall, Halo, Quantum Break are games i'd like to play.

But I like stronger Specs, the elegant Design, the included Powerbrick and the lack of Kinect, so I'm fine with PS4. But yeah PSN is a wannabe LIVE

Then prove me wrong. Its always the same argument from you guys. PS+ gives you free games so it is better. No actually that makes it  a better deal but not a better service. I prefer to have a flawless online experience. Last gen PSN was down monthly for maintenance, down for a full month because of a hack, and had no cross game or party chat. XBL completely blew the doors off of PSN. This gen PS4 finally has those things but yet has still been down multiple times since release and XBL has yet to go down. 300,000 servers on XBL for dedicated gaming vs PSN's # that will never get released because it is much lower. If Sony doesn't improve the online infrastructure it will never be as good. Games with Gold starts next year so the free game argument can't even be used anymore.

Maybe they want to improve it, just like the 360 UI was improved multiple times throughout last generation. Party chat works fine for me as well but I mostly use Skype. Either way I can chat with whoever I want whenever I want.

It's not up to me to prove you're fud wrong. it's up to you to prove it right. And you can't and wont. 

PSN does have party chat, and has done for years, the problem with it on PS3 was bandwith allocations, wouldn't have been very practical whilst one guy was playing GT5, another playing God of War 3, another streaming Netflix etc.

Some of you guys are developing an extremely bad habit of attributing the performance of anything internet-related to the online infrastructure the system is associated with. And have probably been lead on by the advantages Live proposed on the original Xbox vs the online capabilities of the other systems of that generation. Even down to the PS4, I'm yet to see anything where mandating PS+ fees was directly responsible for any improvements.

Anyway, I whole heartedly agree with the OP, I mean, I don't think it's a coincidence that the original Xbox (y'know, the system that by actual definition had a superior online infrastructure to the competition) outsold the PS2 6:1.

Wait...

If Sony can continue to release compelling Downloadable Indle titles along with being able to keep my PS+ offerings coming for both ps3 & ps4, I'll be very, VERY happy with PSN. ...ps- PS+ Jan offerings looks sweet...........
Keep on Gaming.