Just because something is a spinoff does not mean it does not contribute towards oversaturating a market, if anything it contributes more towards it.

You can sit there being pedantic about 'proper' mario vs spinoff all you want but the fact remains that game was created with mario in, spinoff or not thw character is used as a marketing tool and thus a part of a franchise, as such directly contributes to the saturation of said market by said overused character.

If sony were pusjing out uncharted driving games, fighting games, 'drakes party', 'elenas fashion boutique', uncharted chess, dr sully and so on, you'd all cry from the rooftops at how sony was milking the shit out of the franchise but then you sit there with a straight face expecting mario to get a free pass, well it doesnt.

Its an overmilked franchise, has been since the snes, always will be because its all nintendo knows, if all else fails push out more mario.

Saturation and gameplay arent the same thing, doesnt matter if one game plays differently from another if its still a mario game, then it is saturating the available library with games of the same franchise.

But alas, your "i dare you to cite the spinoffs as mario games" comment says it all.

Please, tell the world how a game whos title bears the mario name, and prominently features mario as a playable character, is somehow "not" a mario game, segregating genres is just a lame attempt at downplaying the simple and obvious reality.

You are clutching at straws now.

It isn't really the same thing as milking a franchise. If anything they are milking a character, but given that Mario is basically a mascot anyway I'm not sure that applies. You could pretty much substitute "Mario" for "Nintendo" in the game titles, as they do the same job of describing the game.

Really? hmm. I did not play  much of it (just bet the first world because I want to play it with friends) but I guess it will be like 3D Land.

When I first played NSMB Wii I felt bored after a short period of time.  Mario 3D Land on the other hand was fantastic. And after finishing it I was like "wow that was amazing".

How do you think about 3D Land in comparison to 3D World?  Maybe making a singleplayer game into a multiplayer game (including zooming out which robs the game of some of its exploration because you already see everything from the start) is hurting it.

I know that I hate NSMB because you see everything there is no  "oh shit where does that come from" or " wow didnt expect this to be here" moment.

But nothing tops real 3D mario (without stupid time limit and with more exploration) of course.

Because it's about the gameplay. If you like platformers but not racers or RPGs, what does it matter how many Paper Mario/M&L/Kart games exist? Overexposure is a mild danger at best, oversaturation, in terms of video games, only come from games that play the same, e.g., same franchise, and even then, 2D Platformers don't scratch the same itch as 3D Platformers, so i'm being generous in claiming that the New series and the others are in the same franchise vis-a-vis their ability to oversaturate the market, which is the discussion at hand.

You're conflating fundamentally different gameplay experiences, calling oversaturation, and accusing me of clutching at straws?