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sc94597 on 07 December 2013

Well the Wii sold 181k as well. Let's assume the Wii will sell 1 million more lifetime, that would mean the PS3 would have to sell 5.3 mil per year for four years to reach the Wii. If we assume the current rate of 2.7 PS3's per Wii sold, that seems quite unrealistic. For it to happen the Wii would have to be discontinued (at the least) very soon in NA, but I'm not sure if Nintendo will do that considering its legs are still quite decent and their release of the Wii mini.



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Turkish on 07 December 2013

PS3 will outsell the Wii in a couple years. Wii will be discontinued early next year while PS3 will keep on selling for many years. My prediction: 105 milion



ps3-sales! on 07 December 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
ps3-sales! said:
It'll be close but I don't think, like others have said, Sony can drop the price drastically like the Ps2.


But PS2 didn't have that expensive cell thing!

Edit: wait, I reread that... I think we're on the same page.


We are, indeed. #tehcellproblems



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Dulfite on 07 December 2013

I think ps3 falls well short because the ps3 will decline in sales rapidly over the next 12 months just like the Wii did after Wii U came out.



theleaguegame on 07 December 2013

were i live there selling wii slims for 100$ and 2 free games.. and beside it xbox and ps3's are still going for 200$ i think wii is losing alot of money doing that dont u guyes??



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Conina on 07 December 2013
ps3-sales! said:
Mr Puggsly said:
ps3-sales! said:
It'll be close but I don't think, like others have said, Sony can drop the price drastically like the Ps2.


But PS2 didn't have that expensive cell thing!

Edit: wait, I reread that... I think we're on the same page.


We are, indeed. #tehcellproblems

That "expensive cell thing" was only ~10% of the complete production costs from the beginning ($89 of $840)

http://www.edge-online.com/news/isuppli-60gb-ps3-costs-840-produce/

And as every other hardware component the price of the Cell-CPU will have dropped quite a bit over the last years. And it will get even cheaper in the following years, don't you think?



TheSource on 07 December 2013

PS3 is only going to sell like 6-7 million globally in 2014, and then after that each year will decline by a couple million. Look at the US and Japan - PS3 is going to be at like 2.3m in the US and 800k in Japan during 2013.

PS3 2011 - 14.7m

PS3 2012 - 12.6m

PS3 2013 ~ 9.5m ish (we're 48 weeks through the year, and it's at 7.5m right now)

PS3 at end of 2013: 83m

PS3 2014 ~ 6.5m (1.4m US, 600k Japan, 2.5m Europe, 2m elsewhere - down from 2.3m US, 800k Japan, 3.5m Europe, 2.9m elsewhere in 2013)

PS3 2015 ~3.5m (500k US, 200k Japan, 1.3m Europe, 1.5m elsewhere)

PS3 2016 ~1.5m (50k US, 20k Japan, 630k Europe, 800k elsehwere)

PS3 2017 ~0.5m (100k Europe, 400k elsewhere)

Should get to the mid 90 millions - but I don't see PS3 topping 100m and Wii is already there. You have to remember the PS3 / X360 need to both perform well for those platforms to get software and X360 is in a further state of decline than PS3, so that should hurt PS3 quite a bit going forward, particularly for stuff that has to do well in the US where the PS3 base is much smaller than the X360 base. The X360 will probably get to 81m at the end of the year (6.6m), but then fall to 3.5 in 2014, 1.5m in 2015, and 0.5m in 2016 - so the "HD" market that used to support 300m units of sw for publishers on PS3 + X360 is long gone - in 2014 it will probably collapse to 120m games for both systems combined, and then 60m in 2015, m in 2016, 20m in 2017, 5m in 2018, nothing thereafter.



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NintendoPie on 07 December 2013

A 20 Million console gap is nothing to sneeze at. PS3 will definitely eat up more percentage of market share over the coming years, but it won't be enough to pass the Wii's WW numbers.



FrancisNobleman on 07 December 2013

Can someone clarify the wii was discontinued story ?

Because all I read was Wii being discontinued to favor the Wii Mini.

Also, I don't even expect ps3 to sell more 10 million units, let alone 20.



sc94597 on 07 December 2013
theleaguegame said:
were i live there selling wii slims for 100$ and 2 free games.. and beside it xbox and ps3's are still going for 200$ i think wii is losing alot of money doing that dont u guyes??

How expensive do you think it is to make a Wii? Nintendo never sells at a loss on old hardware, and rarely sells at a lost on even new hardware.