You have no numbers to provide. Kitler however, can point to gamecube sales, vita sales and wii u sales

well i dont want to actually bet anything, as i dont care enough about it to. but my guess would be by febuary 2015. it will sell 10 million

Let's be honest about this year's software for Wii U.  There was almost nothing for the first half of the year.  Wonderful 101 was a new IP.  Pikmin has a really small userbase and never had a big opening week.  Wind Waker HD is a remake of an existing Zelda game that was on a system that didn't really sell amazingly either.  3rd party userbase on Nintendo systems has historically been lower than its competition.  2D and 3D Mario platformers are games that sell over time, and even then they DID sell a decent number of systems (meaning I think that without New Super Mario Bros U, the Wii U would be even lower), and Super Mario 3D World only recently released.  While it didn't do amazing numbers, all things considered, it didn't really do poorly.  Japan's numbers for 3D Mario platformers are low on opening weeks anyway.  

However, Mario Kart is slated for an early 2014 release.  If it does so, it will have time to (at least slowly) rack up the hardware sales.  Given the userbase for Mario Kart games, there's no doubt it would move more hardware weekly for 2014 than 2013.  Then each other game releasing for Wii U will give at least a relatively substantial boost, moreso than the other games for 2013.  Of course, I say all of this in hindsight, but there is much more to support that the Wii U will sell much better 2014 than it did this year.  Plus, December should be a relatively big month for the Wii U.

Einsam_Delphin said: SocialistSlayer said: Einsam_Delphin said: SocialistSlayer said: Einsam_Delphin said: toastboy44562 said: PS4. Xbox One will hit it soon after. Wii U might not hit it for another couple years. So you truely believe Wii U can't do 5 million next year, despite everything it has going for it? EDIT: *Reads your next few post* Oh, nevermind! Q1 2015 is my bet I'll take that bet, though you'll needa be a bit more specific on your time frame as apparently Q1/Q2/etc. have two different meanings. well i dont want to actually bet anything, as i dont care enough about it to. but my guess would be by febuary 2015. it will sell 10 million Pfft, you wimp. And surely you mean February 2015 right?

i have no idea what youre talking about. it clearly says 2015.

you are crazy ...you crazy person you

I think you should consider what kind of numbers the Wii U has to sell to do less than 5m next year.  We don't even have the number Wii U sold total this year to begin with.  We still have Dec (the biggest month for all consoles) left.  So if we look at it that way, Dec has potential to add about 300k-1m to the year on pretty much any given year (on a worst case scenario).  It may not be much, but it's something.  There are 12 months in a year.  To sell 5m at least, it needs to average at about 420k per month.  Well, 2014's release schedule is definitely larger in terms of the kinds of 1st party Nintendo games we are expecting to release during that time frame.  If we assume that each region gets MK8, DK, SSB4, and X, with at least a month between each of these releases, it should be logical to assume that the months with the first three should have over 500k for that month.  That is 1.5m by itself.  X may prove to sell significantly less, but the legs for the Wii U should be kicking off as the Wii U has been showing to have abnormally low numbers weekly so far. 

Games are more important to sell systems than the system itself, and with the release of MK8 and SSB, the appeal of the system should (not absolutely) bring up the sales of the Wii U to about  80-100k per week.  If this happens, we can safely assume that Dec 2014 should have over 1m sales for Wii U.  While it may seem like conjecture, a good bit of these games are better known to be system sellers than the games we have had this year.  Also, 5m in a year is still bad.

What I was trying to say was that while it isn't absolutely impossible, it is extremely unlikely given the circumstances.  If we definitely have Mario Kart 8, DK, SSB4, X, Bayonetta 2 coming in 2014, we are certainly getting other games in 2014 as well.  Especially if MK8 and DK come early 2014, both of which are actually new games of an existing franchise that are BIGGER than pretty much all of the games released for Wii U this year (except for SM3DW which only just came out), it is extremely unlikely the Wii U will average less than 420k a month.  The only way I see this happening is if the userbases for those franchises suddenly dwindle to near non-existence.  Argument that people who play those games already have a Wii U is invalid due to the fact that those games sell much more than the Wii U's current userbase (just saying in case anyone tries to say so).

This is also world wide sales, and we assume that each of these games release for each region 2014, even if the sales boost for the week is substantially lower than it was for previous systems for Nintendo, it would still add up to give the Wii U a real good chance for 5m 2014.  Something I think people need to check up on is the fact that 5m in 2014 is extremely low.  That's about the same amount of systems the 3DS sells in just December.

Man it could be either of the 3. gotta see what kinda affect smash bros and Mario kart have on the wiiu first.