You're comparing apples to oranges here.  For 3D Mario games (and 3D platformers in general), hub worlds are one of the key design elements through which the "levels" are structured and the games are progressed through, rather than in strictly linear fashion a la 2D Mario / platformer games.  This works well for the genre and is the main reason why fans prefer 3D Mario games designed like this.

Zelda games on the other hand are action adventure games, not platformers.  They're supposed to encourage exploration and instill a feeling of freedom to the gamer.  A "hub" world in a Zelda game (something akin to Kingdom Hearts like you mentioned) is counterintuitive because it goes against the very nature of the series.   Sure you could argue that in the classic 2D Zeldas "Hyrule" was basically just a hub world for all the dungeons, but after Ocarina, MM and Twilight Princess gamers want more open world exploration and non-linearity, and in a lot of ways SS felt like a step backwards in that department.

They wanted an overworld teaming with shit to do. But Ill be honest. I dont like hub worlds in Kingdom Hearts, I dont like them in Mario either.

I think it works really well in some scenarios, but it's not right for all games, and there lies the problem of the Wii. Not everything should use motion.

Example of good motion:
Goldeneye(fps in general really)
Pikmin 3
swordplay in Skyward

These games had elements that were better because of motion.

You've never played Red Steel 2 or listened to the person who made it^

First person brawler man.

Infact I dont think you'll be spreading that shit about when we go into fully integrated occulus rift mode

Just so you know, WM+ wasn't an afterthought. It is what Nintendo originally wanted, but it was too expensive at first. 

They should have waited IMO. Apart from pointer controls, the thing never worked as i'd imagined at first.

You (and many others) just don't get motion controls. It wasn't to make the controls "BETTER" as in more accurate or more diverse or more nuanced, but to make the games themselves more fun. 

Give me a round of Wii Sports Golf over any other golf game, any day.

The problem was that most developers didn't get this either, they didn't develop with the fun aspect in mind. Games library all in all tho, the pointer of the wiimote was the biggest differentiator of the generation, not the motion controls, and how anyone could possibly prefer dual analog is beyond me, dual analog is completely unplayable to me.

Skyward Sword tried a little too hard and took some of the fun out of it, since it basically limited you to do one or two specific motions at specific moments, any other motion and your attack would fail, it was about timing and pattern recognition, not about real motion control.

for the most part this.

motion controllers were a fun novelty in some mini games but for fully featured games motion controls was a hinderance.  i'd rather play on a standard controller than play a nerfed game with motion controls.   if motion controls worked well the market would have reacted differently but as they were at market,..  it was a distraction.

i will disagree about kz3 though.   it was kind of fun in single player on easy mode.   ..but for harder modes or online it was DS3 for me.  DS3 was just soo much faster and acurate that i couldn't use the motion controller for competitive play.

THis, personally i never bought that it was too expensive argument, I think its just an excuse to try to pardon a device that sucked bad at what it was trying to do. Most of the work was done with the wiimote already so was it going to break Ninty's pocket by adding extra gyros? It makes no sense, and the fact that WM+ got abysmal support tells me it was an afterthought. 

there is nothing fun about playing a game and it sucking because the controls dont work, I dont even think you believe what you typed not fully. Again we are not talking about Wii Sports or those minigame compilations, those are cheap anyway, we are talking the full featured games. IE SW Force Unleashed, its frustrating that you cant pull off a 3 hit combos because the WIi is terrible at registrating quick movement.