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Dusk said:
lt_dan_27 said:
Over half the games listed on the wiiu have average to low reviews. Batman arkham origins is coming to all platforms. It would probably take at least $600-700 to build a ps4 like system, and that's low balling. Xbox one would probably be about $550-600. I could build a PC with similar or better performance than a wiiu for the same or less. A problem with your "great graphics, better than current gen" is very misleading. A Honda accord and Lamborghini both have far better performance than a model T. But that doesn't mean they perform that same. Possibly the worst post I've ever seen. You've also neglected multiple exclusives on both platforms. And it's also unfair to pin up all of the exclusives that wiiu has made over a year versus exclusives being made in a month. By that math. the xbox one and ps4 have way more exclusives per month they've been released.


Wow, you need to look into computers more apparently. I'll price out and give links for similar specs as much as possible.

Mobo and APU. It's not possible to do a direct copy because they are so custom. So I chose the top A10 chip because it has the best graphics processing in the APU line but isn't as powerful as the one in the PS4, the CPU aspect of the chip would slap the crap out of the PS4 chip. http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/BDL_6800K_F2A85MCSM $235

8 Gigs RAM DDR 3 2133 MHz (DDR 5 isn't avail on PC's only built in GPU's) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX34251 $75

500 GB HDD http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX32586 $60

430watt power supply. Obviously the power supply in the PS4 isn't comparable by any means as it should have lower power consumption as consoles do so I chose a reasonable quality one that is inexpensive. http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX41857 $50

Blu-ray http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX36022 $70

Tower (very basic, but usable)  http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX37673 $60

There you go. 500 bucks.

 

His exclusive list is not encompassing with any of the platforms.

Where is the graphics card? and the OS?



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TheJimbo1234 said:
tbone51 said:

TheJimbo1234 said:

 It is hilarious yet scary how people compare the WiiU to everything else. NOTHING (as in major console - why do people compare it to a handheld? It's a totally different market) has sold this badly for this long before. The PS3 was never removed from stock, and we know bad sales for this long will end up a problem eg. the dreamcast...yet that shifted 10 million units in 2 years. The WiiU looks set to fall short of that my a long, long margin.

 

Why do people compare Console and Handhelds Hmmmm.? Oh yeah they both are gaming devices (made to play games so use phones as an excuse). It just seems your writing off WiiU as dead and their is no hope? Nintendo has been getting hate for years now, I heard same thing with 3DS, yes WiiU worse selling, Losing Retail Support/No third Party Support, but guess what Nintendo has...? Yes Exclusives that will sell no matter what, It has 3DS making a profit. WiiU isnt going nowhere, in a few years it'll sell 15-20mil+ and you'll compare it to ps4 sales cuz there isnt anything better to do right? People Who believe Nintendo Is done and out have another one coming to them, GCN/DS/3DS all did well nuff said. 

Handhelds and consoles are two different markets, lumping them together is the same as lumping every car together, eg family saloons, sports cars, super cars etc...which would be retarded. 

Oh I'm sorry, but at what point do you think I should write the WiiU off then? When its sales are a histroic low for a new console? Check. Shops stop stocking it? Check. When all of the above happen yet market conditions were perfect for it to thrive (and that is about to end)? Check. So yea, I think writing it off is in fact common sense at this point as all the evidence would back that up.

It's exlcusives will only sell to the hardcore nintendo gamer who unsurprisingly already owns the WiiU. Also that Nintendo gamer will tend to buy all the exlcuives rather than a set few as the library is so limited. Take racing games on the Wii. Mario Karts sold so well as that was about the only racing game on it. You didn't have the variety of the other consoles eg. Forza, GT, CM Rally etc. You just had that. Want an rpg? Well it is Zelda or...Zelda.

Also where the hell did you pull 15-20mill from? Thin air? Ah yup - that's the one. You have the facts on this very website yet you some how think its sales will magically quadruple when other consoles come out. That is just crazy.

⇒Also where the hell did you pull 15-20mill from? Thin air? Ah yup - that's the one. 

⇒ So yea, I think writing it off is in fact common sense at this point as all the evidence would back that up.

Ok fine, It wont sell anymore Nintendo Should just completely stop the console, ok this is why you never be able to make big decisions cuz you dont fight back. Nintendo has the biggest franchises (im talking about overall so dont try to low swipe me by saying GTA/COD cuz i know they are bigger) and you think they'll go out? Ok im officially done with this. You make it sound like WiiU dont have a chance to even sell 10mil lifetime. 

If you want nintendo to die so badly thats on you, i'll laugh later on just like i did wen i heard nintendo died with GCN/DS/3DS..... See Ya in a few years LMAO



JoeTheBro said:
TheJimbo1234 said:

It is hilarious yet scary how people compare the WiiU to everything else. NOTHING (as in major console - why do people compare it to a handheld? It's a totally different market) has sold this badly for this long before. The PS3 was never removed from stock, and we know bad sales for this long will end up a problem eg. the dreamcast...yet that shifted 10 million units in 2 years. The WiiU looks set to fall short of that my a long, long margin.

The Wii U looks set to beat 10 million in 2 years by a long, long margin. It should end this year close to 7 million. Throw in mario kart, donkey kong, and smash in 2014 plus unannounced games and it's 15 million plus.

Thank you, Joe, for the use of simple logic here.

Anyone who thinks that the WiiU will be under 10m units sold by November 18th 2014 is kidding themselves.  Falling short of that by a "long, long margin" is just furthering the madness.



archbrix said:
JoeTheBro said:
TheJimbo1234 said:

It is hilarious yet scary how people compare the WiiU to everything else. NOTHING (as in major console - why do people compare it to a handheld? It's a totally different market) has sold this badly for this long before. The PS3 was never removed from stock, and we know bad sales for this long will end up a problem eg. the dreamcast...yet that shifted 10 million units in 2 years. The WiiU looks set to fall short of that my a long, long margin.

The Wii U looks set to beat 10 million in 2 years by a long, long margin. It should end this year close to 7 million. Throw in mario kart, donkey kong, and smash in 2014 plus unannounced games and it's 15 million plus.

Thank you, Joe, for the use of simple logic here.

Anyone who thinks that the WiiU will be under 10m units sold by November 18th 2014 is kidding themselves.  Falling short of that by a "long, long margin" is just furthering the madness.


Yeah.



Wii U is a better option. It runs games in 1080p, that's not something 4BONE has.



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JoeTheBro said:

Is this BOLD about the paragraphs remark?

That's nothing to do with grammar or spelling, it just makes a wall of text less appetizing.


No, I don't know why it was put in bold. Must have done that on accident. But once again, I assume since you have no critiques to my logic, you're admiting I'm correct. 



lt_dan_27 said:
JoeTheBro said:

Is this BOLD about the paragraphs remark?

That's nothing to do with grammar or spelling, it just makes a wall of text less appetizing.


No, I don't know why it was put in bold. Must have done that on accident. But once again, I assume since you have no critiques to my logic, you're admiting I'm correct. 

No no no. I put that part in bold to let you know which part I was commenting on. I never called you out on spelling or grammar mistakes.



Instead of a Wii U, get a 3DS. :3 Cheaper, and WAY more games coming.



tbone51 said:
TheJimbo1234 said:
tbone51 said:

TheJimbo1234 said:

 It is hilarious yet scary how people compare the WiiU to everything else. NOTHING (as in major console - why do people compare it to a handheld? It's a totally different market) has sold this badly for this long before. The PS3 was never removed from stock, and we know bad sales for this long will end up a problem eg. the dreamcast...yet that shifted 10 million units in 2 years. The WiiU looks set to fall short of that my a long, long margin.

 

Why do people compare Console and Handhelds Hmmmm.? Oh yeah they both are gaming devices (made to play games so use phones as an excuse). It just seems your writing off WiiU as dead and their is no hope? Nintendo has been getting hate for years now, I heard same thing with 3DS, yes WiiU worse selling, Losing Retail Support/No third Party Support, but guess what Nintendo has...? Yes Exclusives that will sell no matter what, It has 3DS making a profit. WiiU isnt going nowhere, in a few years it'll sell 15-20mil+ and you'll compare it to ps4 sales cuz there isnt anything better to do right? People Who believe Nintendo Is done and out have another one coming to them, GCN/DS/3DS all did well nuff said. 

Handhelds and consoles are two different markets, lumping them together is the same as lumping every car together, eg family saloons, sports cars, super cars etc...which would be retarded. 

Oh I'm sorry, but at what point do you think I should write the WiiU off then? When its sales are a histroic low for a new console? Check. Shops stop stocking it? Check. When all of the above happen yet market conditions were perfect for it to thrive (and that is about to end)? Check. So yea, I think writing it off is in fact common sense at this point as all the evidence would back that up.

It's exlcusives will only sell to the hardcore nintendo gamer who unsurprisingly already owns the WiiU. Also that Nintendo gamer will tend to buy all the exlcuives rather than a set few as the library is so limited. Take racing games on the Wii. Mario Karts sold so well as that was about the only racing game on it. You didn't have the variety of the other consoles eg. Forza, GT, CM Rally etc. You just had that. Want an rpg? Well it is Zelda or...Zelda.

Also where the hell did you pull 15-20mill from? Thin air? Ah yup - that's the one. You have the facts on this very website yet you some how think its sales will magically quadruple when other consoles come out. That is just crazy.

⇒Also where the hell did you pull 15-20mill from? Thin air? Ah yup - that's the one. 

⇒ So yea, I think writing it off is in fact common sense at this point as all the evidence would back that up.

Ok fine, It wont sell anymore Nintendo Should just completely stop the console, ok this is why you never be able to make big decisions cuz you dont fight back. Nintendo has the biggest franchises (im talking about overall so dont try to low swipe me by saying GTA/COD cuz i know they are bigger) and you think they'll go out? Ok im officially done with this. You make it sound like WiiU dont have a chance to even sell 10mil lifetime. 

If you want nintendo to die so badly thats on you, i'll laugh later on just like i did wen i heard nintendo died with GCN/DS/3DS..... See Ya in a few years LMAO

At this rate, it may not sell 10 million in its lifetime. You are just in denial about the numbers. In 8 months, WITHOUT competition, it has only sold 1.05 million units. In total it has only sold 3.3 million, with most of that being on Christmas launch. 

So at that rate, how many years will it take for it to reach 10 million units? Because 2 years looks oh so optimisitic, and 15-20 million is just delusional.

The franchises are all very old. Do they appeal to the mass market anymore? A market who love GTA and CoD? Well looking at sales, it looks like they do not.

Now stop treating the company like a religion as some infallible entity and look at the facts objectively......then reply.



tbone51 said:

⇒Also where the hell did you pull 15-20mill from? Thin air? Ah yup - that's the one. 

⇒ So yea, I think writing it off is in fact common sense at this point as all the evidence would back that up.

Ok fine, It wont sell anymore Nintendo Should just completely stop the console, ok this is why you never be able to make big decisions cuz you dont fight back. Nintendo has the biggest franchises (im talking about overall so dont try to low swipe me by saying GTA/COD cuz i know they are bigger) and you think they'll go out? Ok im officially done with this. You make it sound like WiiU dont have a chance to even sell 10mil lifetime. 

If you want nintendo to die so badly thats on you, i'll laugh later on just like i did wen i heard nintendo died with GCN/DS/3DS..... See Ya in a few years LMAO

Honest question, will it take nintendo officially announcing that theyre going to pull the plug before you will be willing to accept that the console is basically destined to be a flop?

Your problem isnt your faith in the company, it's commendable in fact, naive maybe, but commendable, the problem you have is that most of the people who share your attitude have already purchased the console, or are waiting for a large price drop to jump in, neither one helps Nintendo get the WiiU out of it's slump.