Well-just take a look at xbox(real 1).Was more powerfull than ps2 but most developers ignored that.Ignoring mor Ram etc,just using better AA.As Anti Aliasing was bad/non existing on ps2 it made look xbox signifivantly better jst by using AA.How much more power the first xbox had could be seen in "Roddick".The only ps2 that could compete with the quality of the best looking xbox games was God of war2.

Ps3 vs 360 was a plattform thing.The 360 was leading plattform.had a better gpu and a more common archtecture.

Also Multiplattformerdevs ignored the "more power" of the cell ship.

Consiedering the real power of ps3 vs 360 the situation is similar to xbox  vs ps2:

The only 360 game that could compete in graphical terms with UC2/3,tlou,gow3 is halo4.

Considering the smallest differenece:It does not matter which console is able to render 1/2 pixel more in an hour.The one that is able to do so

will be supergod faster than light Zeus and the other one will just be lousy 2nd hand peasant semigod half human hercules.And both parties will try to trash the wii u.

According to some threads here the xbox1 is supposed to have a second secret gpu -the race for the superior console throne has not come to an end.  

I said that launch games won't look/run different from each console because they are made with unoptimized game engines, that any difference in power will be seen later on when engines are more tailored to each console.

Your answer is that you don't agree with me because games on both consoles will get better, not only the PS4. Where did I said or imply that!?

But if you believe that you weren't being defensive, then you overreacted to a harmless post.

I think that we should read what his final comments were:

"It's late, and it's clear I'm doing more harm then good at this point. So best to let this rest from my seat and get back to you guys with the most credible source."

He obviously is trying to point out that he can't change peoples mind either, so he will try to get someone who is actually working on the hardware to do it.

The original XBox vs PS2 vs GC era should indeed be a good comparison sake.
Games looked better on certain systems, but they weren't leap and bounds of differences.
I enjoyed Timesplitters on the PS2 just as much as I did on the original XBox.
The way people talk on the boards think It's going to be 60fps vs 30fps for a lot of games.
Good luck with that.

I assume you mean PS3, not PS4, but it was because the PS3 was very complicated to program for, so 3rd party games often ended up suffering because of it. It was generally only first parties that went to the trouble to use everything the PS3 had, which is why the PS3's exclusives tend to look better than the 360's. 

If the difference between the Xbone and PS4 stays what we believe it to be right now, there is a good chance the graphical difference will be more than it was with the PS360, but without the multiplat problems, since they are both using PC architecture. (easy to port)

I wasnt touting it but its been shown running on actual hardware, and they chose to show that one over the Xbox build.

Well one thing i know, its at force Penello, to try to get this msg every day in a other form about power of the 2 consoles will start piss me off :p

My plan was to buy ps4 at launch and xbone 1 years later on next holyday since its NOT aviable this years in my country, but if him continue with this PR talk i will skip for a wiiU ^^

God i hated sony in 2006 for same reason, but now microsoft get this.

Well it's not surprising. The only reason their were differences between 360 and PS3 is that the architecture was so different.

Multiplats likely won't get much special care between versions, unless they have a PC version, but even then it will probably just be a "raw power" upgrade rather then working with the PS4's special intricacies.

The PS3 architecture forced unique programming... making either the 360 or PS3 version better depending on where the resources were allocated.

the PS4's doesn't.

Albert is trying way too hard now. What a joke this guy is

Most multiplat games were so similar this quote would work with those as well. Even with the differences most people wouldnt be able to tell unless they were side by side. You are tryin way too hard in this thread