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Zero999 said:
NiKKoM said:
Does it matter what the girl was gonna be arrested for? Should a cop just back out cause the situation is getting hostile? Of course not.. I actually think the cop showed great restraint.. he could have pushed her to the pavement with a leg swipe, but he decided to put her against the car... he could have used his baton, pepperspray, tazer even his gun to get the girl down but didn't.. heck he could have used his gun to get the crowd back off.. the second girl shouldn't have tried to grab him.. in what world would we be if you can avoid arrest if your friends are going to hold down the cop making it impossible for him to arrest you..

Facepalm to the infinite. this isn't about the arrested girl (no context to know if he is right). and no one is not saying he should "back off", he simply can't distribute punches to those who didn't punch him (or any other kind of damage)

about the bolded part: had he done that, he would go to jail for a huge amount of time.

Sure he can.  I mean, you can't just physically obstruct the police from making a valid arrest.   If you get physical with a cop they are well within their rights to subdue you physically to make the arrest.

Otherwise everytime there was a robbery they'd just pay a bunch of people to gently hold back the police by not striking at them but making it so they couldn't get past them without physically stopping them.



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Kasz216 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
 

Dude, I respect you alot but if you watched the video the woman who was punched stepped away once she got hit. She complained but she walked away. You don't hit a woman like that. Trust me he would've swung harder without any problems if it was a man but no. Did she try to fight him? No. Did she stop trying to force herself between him and her friend and keep him away? Yes. You guys are wildly mixing up what is the gravity regardless of what the charge is. I never denied that the cop had a right to arrest the woman but he was not being attacked. When she was punched did she fight back? No. She was holding her head. If that cop punched me the same way would I be holding my head? No. Why? I can take it. Theres nothing equal about it no matter how large she is.

Danny Devitos situation comes down to genetics, so I could use this just as easily as a woman who is born abnormally large with lots of testosterone.

Ok....lets stop this "sexism" and allow trained woman to fight a trained man whom they are the same size as in the UFC. First of all their weight classes would not even match. I've been watching fighting for years and am soon going to be enrolling in a Damian Maia affiliated school. Let us make a fair match based on weight Rhonda Rousey vs Uriah Faber. Same height same height and same height. Who wins?


Trained woman vs a trained man?   For your point to be valid a trained woman would have to be able to lose to an untrained, out of shape man who is smaller.


To say you can never hit a woman but it's fine to hit a man, you have to prove that every woman is inferior to every man physically.


I am not saying womankind is inferior to men. I've seen a woman get hit by a man in a fight and I have not thought the same since  (he wasnt much larger than her either). From life experience I've realized we both have our strengths and many opportunities should be equal. Let me ask you question is a male cop sexist if a female cop gets beaten up and he feels to need to come to her aid? 

However, do not manipulate this. You spoke of equality so I created an equality in the sense of a fight. As fair match with equal bodyweight and equal height. Rhonda Rousey vs Urijah faber. Technically two of the best in their respective divisions. 



Zero999 said:

It's really simple. if he didn't had the right to arrest the other woman, then the woman in pink has the right to help. but regardless of that, she just made sure to remove his grip from the other woman and keep a distance between them. she didn't threaten his physical integrity but he punched her directly in the face for no reason. there's no way around it, HE MUST GO UNDER ARREST, period.


First, your punctuation and grammar are absolutely atrocious. 

Second, and more importantly, you are 100% wrong. That cop had every right to punch that woman in the face. He also had every right to place the first woman under arrest. They jay-walked. He decided to enforce the law. They decided to ignore him and try to brush past him. In what universe do you think that's how society should work? What exactly was the officer supposed to do? Follow behind them begging them very nicely to please stop so that he could do his job? 

Don't be such a dunce.

If that's how the world worked how would any law be enforced? How could any police officer actually do his job if people that broke the rules were just allowed to walk away from him without him being able to restrain the person?

In fact, that woman who tried to free her friend by putting her hands on the officer should have gotten more than a single punch to the face. Police officers carry guns, batons, and pepper spray on them at all times. You can't have disorderly civilians grabbing at them. I'm sure the women in pink didn't indend to grab his gun and use it, but can the cop actually take that chance? His safety is the priority in that situation. The safety of the woman who could potentially take one of his weapons and use it against him is an after thought.



Zero999 said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

What part of authorized to use force if resisting arrest do they not understand?

what part of NOT PUNCHING OTHERS FOR FREE he didn't understand?


She pushed the cop first and tried to stop him from doing his job and arrest the other woman.  Its not like he punched her out of no where.  Idk what you wanted him to do?  



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Kasz216 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
 

Dude, I respect you alot but if you watched the video the woman who was punched stepped away once she got hit. She complained but she walked away. You don't hit a woman like that. Trust me he would've swung harder without any problems if it was a man but no. Did she try to fight him? No. Did she stop trying to force herself between him and her friend and keep him away? Yes. You guys are wildly mixing up what is the gravity regardless of what the charge is. I never denied that the cop had a right to arrest the woman but he was not being attacked. When she was punched did she fight back? No. She was holding her head. If that cop punched me the same way would I be holding my head? No. Why? I can take it. Theres nothing equal about it no matter how large she is.

Danny Devitos situation comes down to genetics, so I could use this just as easily as a woman who is born abnormally large with lots of testosterone.

Ok....lets stop this "sexism" and allow trained woman to fight a trained man whom they are the same size as in the UFC. First of all their weight classes would not even match. I've been watching fighting for years and am soon going to be enrolling in a Damian Maia affiliated school. Let us make a fair match based on weight Rhonda Rousey vs Uriah Faber. Same height same height and same height. Who wins?


Trained woman vs a trained man?   For your point to be valid a trained woman would have to be able to lose to an untrained, out of shape man who is smaller.


To say you can never hit a woman but it's fine to hit a man, you have to prove that every woman is inferior to every man physically.


I am not saying womankind is inferior to men. I've seen a woman get hit by a man in a fight and I have not thought the same since  (he wasnt much larger than her either). From life experience I've realized we both have our strengths and many opportunities should be equal. Let me ask you question is a male cop sexist if a female cop gets beaten up and he feels to need to come to her aid? 

However, do not manipulate this. You spoke of equality so I created an equality in the sense of a fight. As fair match with equal bodyweight and equal height. Rhonda Rousey vs Urijah faber. Technically two of the best in their respective divisions. 

If he wouldn't save a male cop from getting his ass beat.  Yes.   He's also a really shitty cop.


Outside which, you are the one trying to manipulate things.  You are saying a man should never hit a woman.

Therefore any man should be able to take any woman in a fight for this to be valid (and shrug off their attacks as nothing.)

 

Basic logic here... seriously, use it.

 

Would you argue that Black people shouldn't be allowed to punch asians because black people on average are bigger and stronger?   Hell no.  That's some racist dumb ass bullshit.

 

Your arguement is pointless and invalid because an average don'tmean shit.  We're all individuals.  It's like giving shit to some poor ass white appalachian farmer because on average white people are richer.  Even though he's poorer then 90% of the country.



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Lulz said:
Zero999 said:

It's really simple. if he didn't had the right to arrest the other woman, then the woman in pink has the right to help. but regardless of that, she just made sure to remove his grip from the other woman and keep a distance between them. she didn't threaten his physical integrity but he punched her directly in the face for no reason. there's no way around it, HE MUST GO UNDER ARREST, period.


First, your punctuation and grammar are absolutely atrocious. 

Second, and more importantly, you are 100% wrong. That cop had every righ to punch that woman in the face. He also had every right to place the first woman under arrest. They jay-walked. He decided to enforce the law. They decided to ignore him and try to brush past him. In what universe do you think that's how society should work? What exactly was the officer supposed to do? Follow behind them begging them very nicely to please stop so that he could do his job? 

Don't be such a dunce.

If that's how the world worked how would any law be enforced? How could any police officer actually do his job if people that broke the rules were just allowed to walk away from him without him being able to retsrain the person?

In fact, that woman who tried to free her friend by putting her hands on the officer should have gotten more than a single punch to the face. Police officers carry guns, batons, and pepper spray on them at all times. You can't have disorderly civilians grabbing at them. I'm sure the women in pink didn't indend to grab his gun and use it, but can the cop actually take that chance? His safety is the priority in that situation. The safety of the woman who could potentially take one of his weapons and use it against him is an after thought.


im glad you said it, saved me the time of writing a long winded post.  

its also important to note that the cop was cleared of any wrong doing, and she was charged with obstruction of justice and apolagized.



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Kasz216 said:
Zero999 said:
NiKKoM said:
Does it matter what the girl was gonna be arrested for? Should a cop just back out cause the situation is getting hostile? Of course not.. I actually think the cop showed great restraint.. he could have pushed her to the pavement with a leg swipe, but he decided to put her against the car... he could have used his baton, pepperspray, tazer even his gun to get the girl down but didn't.. heck he could have used his gun to get the crowd back off.. the second girl shouldn't have tried to grab him.. in what world would we be if you can avoid arrest if your friends are going to hold down the cop making it impossible for him to arrest you..

Facepalm to the infinite. this isn't about the arrested girl (no context to know if he is right). and no one is not saying he should "back off", he simply can't distribute punches to those who didn't punch him (or any other kind of damage)

about the bolded part: had he done that, he would go to jail for a huge amount of time.

Sure he can.  I mean, you can't just physically obstruct the police from making a valid arrest.   If you get physical with a cop they are well within their rights to subdue you physically to make the arrest.

Otherwise everytime there was a robbery they'd just pay a bunch of people to gently hold back the police by not striking at them but making it so they couldn't get past them without physically stopping them.

that's the entire point, she didn't get "physical" with him. she was no physical threat (she didn't hurt him nor showed any weapon) and there was a small distance between them. he was free to pepper spray her out of the way but instead he closed the distance and delivered a punch = free agression = jail for him



Zero999 said:
Kasz216 said:
Zero999 said:
NiKKoM said:
Does it matter what the girl was gonna be arrested for? Should a cop just back out cause the situation is getting hostile? Of course not.. I actually think the cop showed great restraint.. he could have pushed her to the pavement with a leg swipe, but he decided to put her against the car... he could have used his baton, pepperspray, tazer even his gun to get the girl down but didn't.. heck he could have used his gun to get the crowd back off.. the second girl shouldn't have tried to grab him.. in what world would we be if you can avoid arrest if your friends are going to hold down the cop making it impossible for him to arrest you..

Facepalm to the infinite. this isn't about the arrested girl (no context to know if he is right). and no one is not saying he should "back off", he simply can't distribute punches to those who didn't punch him (or any other kind of damage)

about the bolded part: had he done that, he would go to jail for a huge amount of time.

Sure he can.  I mean, you can't just physically obstruct the police from making a valid arrest.   If you get physical with a cop they are well within their rights to subdue you physically to make the arrest.

Otherwise everytime there was a robbery they'd just pay a bunch of people to gently hold back the police by not striking at them but making it so they couldn't get past them without physically stopping them.

that's the entire point, she didn't get "physical" with him. she was no physical threat (she didn't hurt him nor showed any weapon) and there was a small distance between them. he was free to pepper spray her out of the way but instead he closed the distance and delivered a punch = free agression = jail for him

Except for the fact that she did get physical with him.  She physically grabbed him and forced his grip away from hers. 

ANY kind of active physical (as in making contact) hinderance of a legal arrest is grounds for physical use of force.


Again, otherwise you'd just have people paid to gently physically restrain police officers at the scene of a crime.

 

You can't physically initiate contact with the police in an attempt to stop an arrest.  That should be obvious.



Lulz said:
Zero999 said:

It's really simple. if he didn't had the right to arrest the other woman, then the woman in pink has the right to help. but regardless of that, she just made sure to remove his grip from the other woman and keep a distance between them. she didn't threaten his physical integrity but he punched her directly in the face for no reason. there's no way around it, HE MUST GO UNDER ARREST, period.


First, your punctuation and grammar are absolutely atrocious. 

Second, and more importantly, you are 100% wrong. That cop had every righ to punch that woman in the face. He also had every right to place the first woman under arrest. They jay-walked. He decided to enforce the law. They decided to ignore him and try to brush past him. In what universe do you think that's how society should work? What exactly was the officer supposed to do? Follow behind them begging them very nicely to please stop so that he could do his job? 

Don't be such a dunce.

If that's how the world worked how would any law be enforced? How could any police officer actually do his job if people that broke the rules were just allowed to walk away from him without him being able to retsrain the person?

In fact, that woman who tried to free her friend by putting her hands on the officer should have gotten more than a single punch to the face. Police officers carry guns, batons, and pepper spray on them at all times. You can't have disorderly civilians grabbing at them. I'm sure the women in pink didn't indend to grab his gun and use it, but can the cop actually take that chance? His safety is the priority in that situation. The safety of the woman who could potentially take one of his weapons and use it against him is an after thought.

do you have any cognitive problem? I made clear that i didn't know the reason of the arrest. that's why I said "if he didn't had the right to arrest the other woman" since i didn't know the reason. I also made clear that the reason of the arrest is irrelevant since I was talking about his agression.

bolded: WHAT?

bolded2: It would have been amazing to see her use telekinesis because that's the only way she could have grabbed his weapons with a distance between them. he was free to pepper spray her or even point his gun. yet he decided to close the distance between them and hurt her for free. way to go for a cop, right?



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