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NiKKoM on 19 August 2013

The Police are trained in PPCT aka Presure Point Control Tactics.. Which trains them to control and subdue someone with a precise strike/grab/hold.. Like a tigh strike (like kickboxers like to hit)so someone loses his feeling in his leg or a hit right below the shoulder on the arm so the arm falls "dead".. The cop in the video striked at the part between the ears and eyes.. Which can dizzy the person or even better stun the person in one hit.. The cop did what he was trained to do.. Otherwise he would be using his baton and repeatly keep hitting her if he wasn't trained well..



 

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S.T.A.G.E. on 19 August 2013
Kasz216 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Kasz216 said:


If the cop restrained the original woman and held her down after resisting arrest can the other woman stand in between them and create space while he handcuffs her? He was trying to arrest her first. The other woman tried to stand in the way got punched and then he told her not to move as he went back after the original woman.

Did you even watch the video?

That's not what happened at all.


I just watched again, ok she tried to push him off of her friend not just stand in between. A guy held her friend back so the cop could continue the arrest after she got punched and was rest pressed against the car. Back to my point...why couldn't the cop just completely restrained her and just handcuffed her? 

I guess this argument all comes down to values, I dont believe a man should hit a woman. When I say this I am speaking primarily on offensive force, not primarily defense. If it comes down to it and a man is forced to them whatever happens, happens. 

And those women you claim can whip my ass, I do not hang out around particularily aggressive females. If a woman attacked me I am confident in my ability to restrain a person. Im athletic, 191 lbs and have been in fights before, yet I do not like to fight all together. Yes..I am very protective of women. I would rather court a woman than fight her.

As for that black and asian argument....I wont even respond to that but give a counter-question. Since when in history has a man given quarter to another man because they were smaller? That would mean by rights the Spaniards should've left the native americans and mexicans alone then if we're going by average height. 



Lulz on 19 August 2013
Zero999 said:
fixed and: THAT IS OBVIOUS, I never said people can simply gently restrain police officers, you are the one saying that.

as I said many times, he could have used pepper spray or the gun. but he used agression without need and should be punished for it.


So the punch was accessive, but drawing his gun would have been appropriate? Are you completely insane? I'm serious. I really want to know.



Kasz216 on 19 August 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Kasz216 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Kasz216 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Kasz216 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


I am not saying womankind is inferior to men. I've seen a woman get hit by a man in a fight and I have not thought the same since  (he wasnt much larger than her either). From life experience I've realized we both have our strengths and many opportunities should be equal. Let me ask you question is a male cop sexist if a female cop gets beaten up and he feels to need to come to her aid? 

However, do not manipulate this. You spoke of equality so I created an equality in the sense of a fight. As fair match with equal bodyweight and equal height. Rhonda Rousey vs Urijah faber. Technically two of the best in their respective divisions. 

If he wouldn't save a male cop from getting his ass beat.  Yes.   He's also a really shitty cop.


Outside which, you are the one trying to manipulate things.  You are saying a man should never hit a woman.

Therefore any man should be able to take any woman in a fight for this to be valid (and shrug off their attacks as nothing.)

 

Basic logic here... seriously, use it.

 

Would you argue that Black people shouldn't be allowed to punch asians because black people on average are bigger and stronger?   Hell no.  That's some racist dumb ass bullshit.

 


If the cop restrained the original woman and held her down after resisting arrest can the other woman stand in between them and create space while he handcuffs her? He was trying to arrest her first. The other woman tried to stand in the way got punched and then he told her not to move as he went back after the original woman.

Did you even watch the video?

That's not what happened at all.


I just watched again, ok she tried to push him off of her friend not just stand in between. A guy held her friend back so the cop could continue the arrest after she got punched and was rest pressed against the car. Back to my point...why couldn't the cop just completely restrained her and just handcuffed her? 

I guess this argument all comes down to values, I dont believe a man should hit a woman. When I say this I am speaking primarily on offensive force, not primarily defense. If it comes down to it and a man is forced to them whatever happens, happens. 

And those women you claim can whip my ass, I do not hang out around particularily aggressive females. If a woman attacked me I am confident in my ability to restrain a person. Im athletic, 191 lbs and have been in fights before, yet I do not like to fight all together. Yes..I am very protective of women. I would rather court a woman than fight her.

It seems like you take offense at the claim there are women out there who could kick your ass.   The mere fact that you have to feel the need to state your weight and that you are "atheletic" more or less shows that.  That along with the menatlity above more or less makes the point for me.

You think you could restrain a trained woman UFC fighter?  Or is your arguement that you wouldn't ever hang around a trained UFC fighter... I mean if so... that's just sad. 

As for why he couldn't just restrain her... watch the video again.  If he just tries to restrain her, and she's able to fight him.  Nothing is stopping the other woman from stepping right up to her again.


The punch more or less insured he could secure her without worry of further resistance.  I'm not sure it's the best way to handle it... but it's not out of line.

 



DD_Bwest on 19 August 2013

lol when i was in high school there was a girl who was pretty tough and loved to fight. She claimed she could take on any guy in the school. 3 different "tough" guys at one point took on the challenge, and she beat the shit out of each one. she was scary.. almost looked like a gargoyle



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HesAPooka on 19 August 2013

Completely justified. As far as I am concerned they both got off easy. He could have easily broken out the tazer gun in that situation.



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Branko2166 on 19 August 2013
DD_Bwest said:
Lulz said:
Zero999 said:

It's really simple. if he didn't had the right to arrest the other woman, then the woman in pink has the right to help. but regardless of that, she just made sure to remove his grip from the other woman and keep a distance between them. she didn't threaten his physical integrity but he punched her directly in the face for no reason. there's no way around it, HE MUST GO UNDER ARREST, period.


First, your punctuation and grammar are absolutely atrocious. 

Second, and more importantly, you are 100% wrong. That cop had every righ to punch that woman in the face. He also had every right to place the first woman under arrest. They jay-walked. He decided to enforce the law. They decided to ignore him and try to brush past him. In what universe do you think that's how society should work? What exactly was the officer supposed to do? Follow behind them begging them very nicely to please stop so that he could do his job? 

Don't be such a dunce.

If that's how the world worked how would any law be enforced? How could any police officer actually do his job if people that broke the rules were just allowed to walk away from him without him being able to retsrain the person?

In fact, that woman who tried to free her friend by putting her hands on the officer should have gotten more than a single punch to the face. Police officers carry guns, batons, and pepper spray on them at all times. You can't have disorderly civilians grabbing at them. I'm sure the women in pink didn't indend to grab his gun and use it, but can the cop actually take that chance? His safety is the priority in that situation. The safety of the woman who could potentially take one of his weapons and use it against him is an after thought.


im glad you said it, saved me the time of writing a long winded post.  

its also important to note that the cop was cleared of any wrong doing, and she was charged with obstruction of justice and apolagized.

+1

It is a bit worrying how misguided or seemingly brainwashed some people are. We have laws for a reason. They apply to everyone and under all circumstances. Obviously we have our own individual moral compass but we must all follow the same law otherwise we run the risk of anarchy/disorder.

As far as the gender angle goes which has been debated in this thread, I think a bit of common sense should apply. Wether you are male or female and no matter what race you are you should expect to be dealt with harshly if you attempt to get physical in any way with the police. Even if you feel you are wrongly being targeted/arrested. The right way to deal with it is to submit to the arrest without resisting and then contest the charges if necessary.

Personally I am for equality where everyone is treated fairly under law with no consideration of gender/race/religion etc. 

Also regarding the cop carrying weapons, not only does he have to take into consideration his own safety but that of others as well. Consider what could happen not only to him but also others in close proximity if his weapon/s were taken from him by someone.

@S.T.A.G.E.

You cannot have it both ways. Either women are equal hence get treated equally. Or you consider them unequal in some respects and they should then have specific special considerations/privelages over men.

 

 



 

 

Zero999 on 19 August 2013
Lulz said:
Zero999 said:
fixed and: THAT IS OBVIOUS, I never said people can simply gently restrain police officers, you are the one saying that.

as I said many times, he could have used pepper spray or the gun. but he used agression without need and should be punished for it.


So the punch was accessive, but drawing his gun would have been appropriate? Are you completely insane? I'm serious. I really want to know.

drawing his gun wouldn't hurt her, unless the natural forces of drawing weapons changed recently.



Zero999 on 19 August 2013
Branko2166 said:

+1

It is a bit worrying how misguided or seemingly brainwashed some people are. We have laws for a reason. They apply to everyone and under all circumstances. Obviously we have our own individual moral compass but we must all follow the same law otherwise we run the risk of anarchy/disorder.

As far as the gender angle goes which has been debated in this thread, I think a bit of common sense should apply. Wether you are male or female and no matter what race you are you should expect to be dealt with harshly if you attempt to get physical in any way with the police. Even if you feel you are wrongly being targeted/arrested. The right way to deal with it is to submit to the arrest without resisting and then contest the charges if necessary.

Personally I am for equality where everyone is treated fairly under law with no consideration of gender/race/religion etc. 

Also regarding the cop carrying weapons, not only does he have to take into consideration his own safety but that of others as well. Consider what could happen not only to him but also others in close proximity if his weapon/s were taken from him by someone.

@S.T.A.G.E.

You cannot have it both ways. Either women are equal hence get treated equally. Or you consider them unequal in some respects and they should then have specific special considerations/privelages over men.

 

 

bolded: they don't.



Zero999 on 19 August 2013
Lulz said:
Zero999 said:
Lulz said:
Zero999 said:

It's really simple. if he didn't had the right to arrest the other woman, then the woman in pink has the right to help. but regardless of that, she just made sure to remove his grip from the other woman and keep a distance between them. she didn't threaten his physical integrity but he punched her directly in the face for no reason. there's no way around it, HE MUST GO UNDER ARREST, period.


First, your punctuation and grammar are absolutely atrocious. 

Second, and more importantly, you are 100% wrong. That cop had every righ to punch that woman in the face. He also had every right to place the first woman under arrest. They jay-walked. He decided to enforce the law. They decided to ignore him and try to brush past him. In what universe do you think that's how society should work? What exactly was the officer supposed to do? Follow behind them begging them very nicely to please stop so that he could do his job? 

Don't be such a dunce.

If that's how the world worked how would any law be enforced? How could any police officer actually do his job if people that broke the rules were just allowed to walk away from him without him being able to retsrain the person?

In fact, that woman who tried to free her friend by putting her hands on the officer should have gotten more than a single punch to the face. Police officers carry guns, batons, and pepper spray on them at all times. You can't have disorderly civilians grabbing at them. I'm sure the women in pink didn't indend to grab his gun and use it, but can the cop actually take that chance? His safety is the priority in that situation. The safety of the woman who could potentially take one of his weapons and use it against him is an after thought.

do you have any cognitive problem? I made clear that i didn't know the reason of the arrest. that's why I said "if he didn't had the right to arrest the other woman" since i didn't know the reason. I also made clear that the reason of the arrest is irrelevant since I was talking about his agression.

bolded: WHAT?

bolded2: It would have been amazing to see her use telekinesis because that's the only way she could have grabbed his weapons with a distance between them. he was free to pepper spray her or even point his gun. yet he decided to close the distance between them and hurt her for free. way to go for a cop, right?

You're making a complete fool of yourself.

You keep babbling on incoherently about the officer's "aggression", as if a single punch to the face is some heinous assault against the moral fiber of civilized society. She put HIS life in danger by grabbing at him when he had at least 3 weapons on him. She's lucky he ONLY punched her in the face. If I were in his shoes I would have punched her a lot harder to make sure she didn't get back up and attack me again before I finished arresting her friend.

What kind of nonsensical tard-drivel are you spewing in regards to "telekinesis"? That's the "only" way she could have grabbed his gun considering the "distance between them"? What distance? She was physically assaulting him. She was fucking grabbing the cop you gonad gargling gargoyle. You can't get ANY closer than that unless she pried his mouth open and climbed inside of him!

Please just stop. You're making every person that reads your posts dumber.

go watch the video. she separetes him and the other woman and then pushes him and stays where she is, with a distance between the cop and her. he then closes the distance and punches her.