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cmeese47 on 19 August 2013

Worst cop ever can't handle a single woman. Throw her ass to the ground and arrest her or taser her ass until she stops resisting.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 19 August 2013
Branko2166 said:
DD_Bwest said:
Lulz said:
Zero999 said:

It's really simple. if he didn't had the right to arrest the other woman, then the woman in pink has the right to help. but regardless of that, she just made sure to remove his grip from the other woman and keep a distance between them. she didn't threaten his physical integrity but he punched her directly in the face for no reason. there's no way around it, HE MUST GO UNDER ARREST, period.


First, your punctuation and grammar are absolutely atrocious. 

Second, and more importantly, you are 100% wrong. That cop had every righ to punch that woman in the face. He also had every right to place the first woman under arrest. They jay-walked. He decided to enforce the law. They decided to ignore him and try to brush past him. In what universe do you think that's how society should work? What exactly was the officer supposed to do? Follow behind them begging them very nicely to please stop so that he could do his job? 

Don't be such a dunce.

If that's how the world worked how would any law be enforced? How could any police officer actually do his job if people that broke the rules were just allowed to walk away from him without him being able to retsrain the person?

In fact, that woman who tried to free her friend by putting her hands on the officer should have gotten more than a single punch to the face. Police officers carry guns, batons, and pepper spray on them at all times. You can't have disorderly civilians grabbing at them. I'm sure the women in pink didn't indend to grab his gun and use it, but can the cop actually take that chance? His safety is the priority in that situation. The safety of the woman who could potentially take one of his weapons and use it against him is an after thought.


im glad you said it, saved me the time of writing a long winded post.  

its also important to note that the cop was cleared of any wrong doing, and she was charged with obstruction of justice and apolagized.

+1

It is a bit worrying how misguided or seemingly brainwashed some people are. We have laws for a reason. They apply to everyone and under all circumstances. Obviously we have our own individual moral compass but we must all follow the same law otherwise we run the risk of anarchy/disorder.

As far as the gender angle goes which has been debated in this thread, I think a bit of common sense should apply. Wether you are male or female and no matter what race you are you should expect to be dealt with harshly if you attempt to get physical in any way with the police. Even if you feel you are wrongly being targeted/arrested. The right way to deal with it is to submit to the arrest without resisting and then contest the charges if necessary.

Personally I am for equality where everyone is treated fairly under law with no consideration of gender/race/religion etc. 

Also regarding the cop carrying weapons, not only does he have to take into consideration his own safety but that of others as well. Consider what could happen not only to him but also others in close proximity if his weapon/s were taken from him by someone.

@S.T.A.G.E.

You cannot have it both ways. Either women are equal hence get treated equally. Or you consider them unequal in some respects and they should then have specific special considerations/privelages over men.

 

 


Theres two types of equality, biological equality and social equality. Its never that simple. Its been an issue with feminism vs anti-feminism for years.



S.T.A.G.E. on 19 August 2013
Kasz216 said:


Which is fine... except your whole attitude and values are sexist

If that's how you feel and you don't see a problem with it.  Just embrace it.

 

Me,  I don't care... gender is irrelevent all that matters is relative strengths....

 

and when it comes to sparring?  Holy fuck, I mean I know you think your being all respective and protective and shit but in reality there is nothing more disrespetful and insulting.

I mean shit, we're talking about a woman who has trained to fight and who has quite a bit of self esteem and interest built in fighting and you are essentially saying you don't respect her as a fighter and don't think she's worth it, because she's a woman.

You may as well be Master Fnog from Futurama.

 

Leela: When I was growing up at the orphanarium, I got picked on a lot.

[Flashback. A teenage Leela and some teenage boys are dressed in martial arts uniforms.]

Leela: [voice-over] My only outlet was Arcturan Kung Fu.

[Teenage Leela takes on two guys and floors them. Her teacher, a green alien called Fnog watches.]

Fnog: Excellent. Bill, Keith, you will go to Junior Championships. Bill, congratulate Keith when he regains consciousness.

Leela: But, Master Fnog, I can beat these dorks with one eye closed.

Fnog: Perhaps. But there is more to winning than beating your opponent. You lack the will of the warrior.

Leela: What do you mean? Watch this!

[She kicks Bill in the stomach.]

Bill: [crying] Ow!

Fnog: No girl has the will of a warrior. You have the will of a housewife or, at best, the schoolmarm.

Leela: That's it. I'll take you on right now.

Fnog: Very well. But, you see, I have the will of the warrior. Therefore, the battle is already over. The winner? Me! [He laughs.] Rematch? You lose again! Had enough? I thought so!

[He and the other guys laugh.]


At the end of the day, if your willing to spar with a guy that will give you an equal or lesser challenge then a woman who you aren't willing to spar with because she's a woman...  That's sexist plane and simple.


So, not wanting to risk her getting injured is sexist? What if she had a Jiu Jitsu meet and I injured her? Many things can happen They told me they will whip me into shape and i am totally ok with it. I'll spar with them, but I dont want to go all out with them. The chick understood when I turned her own.

As for being associated with Fnog, thats not at all how I see things. I am not a trainer, in that instance I would be a student.



IHateLife on 19 August 2013

Old news is old



Kasz216 on 20 August 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Kasz216 said:

 


So, not wanting to risk her getting injured is sexist? What if she had a Jiu Jitsu meet and I injured her? Many things can happen They told me they will whip me into shape and i am totally ok with it. I'll spar with them, but I dont want to go all out with them. The chick understood when I turned her own.

As for being associated with Fnog, thats not at all how I see things. I am not a trainer, in that instance I would be a student.

Yes.  Actually HELL yes.

You are afraid you'll hurt a woman if sparring seriously, but have no worries about hurting a man sparring.  Even though there is a plenty good chance she's better then the men you are sparring.

Again what if some dude had a jujitsu meet and you injured him. 



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warhammer777 on 20 August 2013

Excuse me Mr. Officer but do you even lift?



DieAppleDie on 20 August 2013

thAt cop is embarrasing your country
in mine if a cop does that he would be a disgrace
plus hes afraid of a woman? pathetic



Mythmaker1 on 20 August 2013
Zero999 said:

you said pepper spray can have little to no effect or kill someone, well, so can a punch. but I'm sure the pepper spray will have much less chances of killing her than the free punch.

and please tell me how was she keep restraining him if there's a gun pointed at her?

Police officers don't use guns as detterents. They use it to shoot people.

Officers are trained to only draw their weapon if there is immediate danger, not because they want to intimidate someone into backing down. Not just because it's dangerous, but because it escalates the situation. At that point, the only alternative the police offer has is to holster his gun or fire.

In the end, getting in the way of a police officer trying to do his job should not be tolerated. She had no right to interfere the way she did, and she was brought up on charges and convicted for doing exactly that. The officer, meanwhile, was cleared, and is back on active duty.



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sales2099 on 20 August 2013

Don't know the story but I imagine she was being verbally confrontational and the punch was meant to deescalate the situation.



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BuckStud on 20 August 2013

Sadly,officers in urban areas have to deal with "citizens" like this on a daily basis.  As far as I'm concerned the camera man should have been arrested for obstruction of justice.  He could have waited until after the officer had the lady in handcuffs before he confronted the officer....and we wonder why we see videos of multiple cops beating a civilian?!?  People want to act like animals, they better be prepared to be treated like them.



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