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Kasz216 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


I am not saying womankind is inferior to men. I've seen a woman get hit by a man in a fight and I have not thought the same since  (he wasnt much larger than her either). From life experience I've realized we both have our strengths and many opportunities should be equal. Let me ask you question is a male cop sexist if a female cop gets beaten up and he feels to need to come to her aid? 

However, do not manipulate this. You spoke of equality so I created an equality in the sense of a fight. As fair match with equal bodyweight and equal height. Rhonda Rousey vs Urijah faber. Technically two of the best in their respective divisions. 

If he wouldn't save a male cop from getting his ass beat.  Yes.   He's also a really shitty cop.


Outside which, you are the one trying to manipulate things.  You are saying a man should never hit a woman.

Therefore any man should be able to take any woman in a fight for this to be valid (and shrug off their attacks as nothing.)

 

Basic logic here... seriously, use it.

 

Would you argue that Black people shouldn't be allowed to punch asians because black people on average are bigger and stronger?   Hell no.  That's some racist dumb ass bullshit.

 

Your arguement is pointless and invalid because an average don'tmean shit.  We're all individuals.  It's like giving shit to some poor ass white appalachian farmer because on average white people are richer.  Even though he's poorer then 90% of the country.

 


First of all if you read what I said, I stated if a woman comes at you with the intent to kill via weapons a man has no choice but to disarm her by any means necessary. Anyway, question...if a woman swings on me and I restrain her, am I sexist because I would not want to exert the same or more force than her or that I should restrain her and hold her down? Oh wait...cops are trained to do that.



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Kasz216 said:
Zero999 said:

that's the entire point, she didn't get "physical" with him. she was no physical threat (she didn't hurt him nor showed any weapon) and there was a small distance between them. he was free to pepper spray her out of the way but instead he closed the distance and delivered a punch = free agression = jail for him

Except for the fact that she did get physical with him.  She physically grabbed him and forced his grip away from hers. 

ANY kind of active physical (as in making contact) hinderance of a legal arrest is grounds for physical use of force.


Again, otherwise you'd just have people paid to gently physically restrain police officers at the scene of a crime.

 

You can't physically initiate contact with the police in an attempt to stop a just arrest.  That should be obvious.

fixed and: THAT IS OBVIOUS, I never said people can simply gently restrain police officers, you are the one saying that.

as I said many times, he could have used pepper spray or the gun. but he used agression without need and should be punished for it.



She deserved it. Don't step up to a man and make it physical unless you're ready to deal with the consequences. If that were a man instead of a woman, jumping into an arrest, grabbing the officer and pushing the officer, no one would have a problem with the cop being physical back. That's a shame.



Wow, I was going to write a long winded post, But since it is clear the person its intended for has no idea how the law works, im not even going to bother.

but i will say this, Dont go practice law because you have no clue what your talking about



I am Torgo, I take care of the place while the master is away.

"Hes the clown that makes the dark side fun.. Torgo!"

Ha.. i won my bet, but i wasnt around to gloat because im on a better forum!  See ya guys on Viz

Seeing that punch felt so satisfying. Good to read Mr. Cop was found to be right, keep the good work.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
Kasz216 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


I am not saying womankind is inferior to men. I've seen a woman get hit by a man in a fight and I have not thought the same since  (he wasnt much larger than her either). From life experience I've realized we both have our strengths and many opportunities should be equal. Let me ask you question is a male cop sexist if a female cop gets beaten up and he feels to need to come to her aid? 

However, do not manipulate this. You spoke of equality so I created an equality in the sense of a fight. As fair match with equal bodyweight and equal height. Rhonda Rousey vs Urijah faber. Technically two of the best in their respective divisions. 

If he wouldn't save a male cop from getting his ass beat.  Yes.   He's also a really shitty cop.


Outside which, you are the one trying to manipulate things.  You are saying a man should never hit a woman.

Therefore any man should be able to take any woman in a fight for this to be valid (and shrug off their attacks as nothing.)

 

Basic logic here... seriously, use it.

 

Would you argue that Black people shouldn't be allowed to punch asians because black people on average are bigger and stronger?   Hell no.  That's some racist dumb ass bullshit.

 

Your arguement is pointless and invalid because an average don'tmean shit.  We're all individuals.  It's like giving shit to some poor ass white appalachian farmer because on average white people are richer.  Even though he's poorer then 90% of the country.

 

First of all if you read what I said, I stated if a woman comes at you with the intent to kill via weapons a man has no choice but to disarm her by any means necessary. Anyway, question...if a woman swings on me and I restrain her, am I sexist because I would not want to exert the same or more force than her or that I should restrain her and hold her down? Oh wait...cops are trained to do that.


Why does a weapon have to be thrown into it?  There are plenty of women that can kick your ass.

Also there are plenty of men that couldn't.  What does sex have to do with anything?


Outside which... lets say the Police Officer restrains this woman and holds her down.

 

What is to stop the original criminal from running away?



Kasz216 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Kasz216 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


I am not saying womankind is inferior to men. I've seen a woman get hit by a man in a fight and I have not thought the same since  (he wasnt much larger than her either). From life experience I've realized we both have our strengths and many opportunities should be equal. Let me ask you question is a male cop sexist if a female cop gets beaten up and he feels to need to come to her aid? 

However, do not manipulate this. You spoke of equality so I created an equality in the sense of a fight. As fair match with equal bodyweight and equal height. Rhonda Rousey vs Urijah faber. Technically two of the best in their respective divisions. 

If he wouldn't save a male cop from getting his ass beat.  Yes.   He's also a really shitty cop.


Outside which, you are the one trying to manipulate things.  You are saying a man should never hit a woman.

Therefore any man should be able to take any woman in a fight for this to be valid (and shrug off their attacks as nothing.)

 

Basic logic here... seriously, use it.

 

Would you argue that Black people shouldn't be allowed to punch asians because black people on average are bigger and stronger?   Hell no.  That's some racist dumb ass bullshit.

 

Your arguement is pointless and invalid because an average don'tmean shit.  We're all individuals.  It's like giving shit to some poor ass white appalachian farmer because on average white people are richer.  Even though he's poorer then 90% of the country.

 

First of all if you read what I said, I stated if a woman comes at you with the intent to kill via weapons a man has no choice but to disarm her by any means necessary. Anyway, question...if a woman swings on me and I restrain her, am I sexist because I would not want to exert the same or more force than her or that I should restrain her and hold her down? Oh wait...cops are trained to do that.


Why does a weapon have to be thrown into it?  There are plenty of women that can kick your ass.

Also there are plenty of men that couldn't.  What does sex have to do with anything?


Outside which... lets say the Police Officer restrains this woman and holds her down.

 

What is to stop the original criminal from running away?


If the cop restrained the original woman and held her down after resisting arrest can the other woman stand in between them and create space while he handcuffs her? He was trying to arrest her first. The other woman tried to stand in the way got punched and then he told her not to move as he went back after the original woman.



Zero999 said:
Lulz said:
Zero999 said:

It's really simple. if he didn't had the right to arrest the other woman, then the woman in pink has the right to help. but regardless of that, she just made sure to remove his grip from the other woman and keep a distance between them. she didn't threaten his physical integrity but he punched her directly in the face for no reason. there's no way around it, HE MUST GO UNDER ARREST, period.


First, your punctuation and grammar are absolutely atrocious. 

Second, and more importantly, you are 100% wrong. That cop had every righ to punch that woman in the face. He also had every right to place the first woman under arrest. They jay-walked. He decided to enforce the law. They decided to ignore him and try to brush past him. In what universe do you think that's how society should work? What exactly was the officer supposed to do? Follow behind them begging them very nicely to please stop so that he could do his job? 

Don't be such a dunce.

If that's how the world worked how would any law be enforced? How could any police officer actually do his job if people that broke the rules were just allowed to walk away from him without him being able to retsrain the person?

In fact, that woman who tried to free her friend by putting her hands on the officer should have gotten more than a single punch to the face. Police officers carry guns, batons, and pepper spray on them at all times. You can't have disorderly civilians grabbing at them. I'm sure the women in pink didn't indend to grab his gun and use it, but can the cop actually take that chance? His safety is the priority in that situation. The safety of the woman who could potentially take one of his weapons and use it against him is an after thought.

do you have any cognitive problem? I made clear that i didn't know the reason of the arrest. that's why I said "if he didn't had the right to arrest the other woman" since i didn't know the reason. I also made clear that the reason of the arrest is irrelevant since I was talking about his agression.

bolded: WHAT?

bolded2: It would have been amazing to see her use telekinesis because that's the only way she could have grabbed his weapons with a distance between them. he was free to pepper spray her or even point his gun. yet he decided to close the distance between them and hurt her for free. way to go for a cop, right?

You're making a complete fool of yourself.

You keep babbling on incoherently about the officer's "aggression", as if a single punch to the face is some heinous assault against the moral fiber of civilized society. She put HIS life in danger by grabbing at him when he had at least 3 weapons on him. She's lucky he ONLY punched her in the face. If I were in his shoes I would have punched her a lot harder to make sure she didn't get back up and attack me again before I finished arresting her friend.

What kind of nonsensical tard-drivel are you spewing in regards to "telekinesis"? That's the "only" way she could have grabbed his gun considering the "distance between them"? What distance? She was physically assaulting him. She was fucking grabbing the cop you gonad gargling gargoyle. You can't get ANY closer than that unless she pried his mouth open and climbed inside of him!

Please just stop. You're making every person that reads your posts dumber.

 

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Zero999 said:
Kasz216 said:
Zero999 said:

that's the entire point, she didn't get "physical" with him. she was no physical threat (she didn't hurt him nor showed any weapon) and there was a small distance between them. he was free to pepper spray her out of the way but instead he closed the distance and delivered a punch = free agression = jail for him

Except for the fact that she did get physical with him.  She physically grabbed him and forced his grip away from hers. 

ANY kind of active physical (as in making contact) hinderance of a legal arrest is grounds for physical use of force.


Again, otherwise you'd just have people paid to gently physically restrain police officers at the scene of a crime.

 

You can't physically initiate contact with the police in an attempt to stop a just arrest.  That should be obvious.

fixed and: THAT IS OBVIOUS, I never said people can simply gently restrain police officers, you are the one saying that.

as I said many times, he could have used pepper spray or the gun. but he used agression without need and should be punished for it.

She was restraining him physically from doing his job.  So i'm not sure what your issue is here.

Outside that... gun are peperspray are you crazy?


Ok he pulls out his gun.  She keeps physically restraining him, or the woman that was being arrested begins to leave or run.

What's he supposed to do now?  Fucking shoot them?  Let them escape?  

 

 

As for Pepperspray.  Many police forces actually authorize physical force and violence before peperspray because the effects of pepperspray are so varied.   It could have little to no effect or it could sent someone into huge fits and maybe even cause death if the person has a medical condition like Astma.

Often it's reserved for large crowds.

http://nopepperspray.org/when_police_play_russian_roulette_ella_baker_center.pdf



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Kasz216 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Kasz216 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


I am not saying womankind is inferior to men. I've seen a woman get hit by a man in a fight and I have not thought the same since  (he wasnt much larger than her either). From life experience I've realized we both have our strengths and many opportunities should be equal. Let me ask you question is a male cop sexist if a female cop gets beaten up and he feels to need to come to her aid? 

However, do not manipulate this. You spoke of equality so I created an equality in the sense of a fight. As fair match with equal bodyweight and equal height. Rhonda Rousey vs Urijah faber. Technically two of the best in their respective divisions. 

If he wouldn't save a male cop from getting his ass beat.  Yes.   He's also a really shitty cop.


Outside which, you are the one trying to manipulate things.  You are saying a man should never hit a woman.

Therefore any man should be able to take any woman in a fight for this to be valid (and shrug off their attacks as nothing.)

 

Basic logic here... seriously, use it.

 

Would you argue that Black people shouldn't be allowed to punch asians because black people on average are bigger and stronger?   Hell no.  That's some racist dumb ass bullshit.

 


If the cop restrained the original woman and held her down after resisting arrest can the other woman stand in between them and create space while he handcuffs her? He was trying to arrest her first. The other woman tried to stand in the way got punched and then he told her not to move as he went back after the original woman.

Did you even watch the video?

That's not what happened at all.