Multimedialover said:
bobgamer said:
@Bolded Well that sure is a rich opinion about you coming from you. It can't be biased, right? SMH... (hint: madword is the rational one here)
BTW, i followed the discussion between you guys and i must say, multimedialover, where have you been in the last 6 months? You know, those months in which Sony hasn't received a single indie dev complain, and in fact only praises and announcements that their games are going to PS4/PSVita.
@italic We don't even know X1's full one year lineup (going from what microsoft said they have announced 85-95% of the first year first partys titles), and PS4's is even worse considering it's still for the most part an enigma (~30% of firsty year first partys titles announce IIRC). So it's complete reasonable for you to compare both of them at this point in time, right?
Right.
Also, i didn't understand that second bolded part, are you saying in that part that the DS4 is unnusable without further purchases? Wut?
And i hope that you mean in that last sentence is that it's starting to be one sided for Sony, right? Ugh...
And lastly:
Im 1000000000000000000000000000000000% certain, Xbox One will have loads more unique Indie games than PS4 or Wii U could ever imagine. And a massive Modding channell.

LMFAO. I can't - my sides! Ohhh boy, this is just too hilarious for me. That crystal ball of yours mustn't have been cheap for you, and i am sorry to say that you have been scammed by whoever it is that sold it (hint:this is as ridiculous as claim gets),
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Your so blinkered its scary. Your seeing Indie dev who spent over 10,000 grand on a PS4 devkit as the only devs this gen.
Im seeing the thousands of potential Indie devs in their bedrooms right now with not the money to buy these expensive Sony kits.
There ( if your not blinkered to the industry as it was last gen ) is your 1000's of unreleased PS4 games that are only released on The One because Microsoft have cut WAY in front of PS4 by takig out the need to spend, taken out the need to get a publisher.
So now an Indie dev need $499, free software and can now self publish. Unless Sony give Indie devs PS4 dev kits free, they cant compete with that. Let alone modding.
Alot of Sony fans seem to cling to last generations mechanics. They dont seem to be very open minded or think out of the box. Unusual for a crowd who claim to like out of the box game ideas.
Nice people, Not to bright though. The Oracle - The Matrix.
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My god do you even do the least amoungt of research in your claims? This is seriously amazing (i am blinkered? just lol man, just lol)
Alright lets see al the nonsense that you posted one by one:
Your seeing Indie dev who spent over 10,000 grand on a PS4 devkit as the only devs this gen.
I am sorry, what? See this:http://www.polygon.com/2013/7/24/4553842/so-how-much-does-it-cost-to-develop-for-playstation-4
And i am assuming that you are not going to click in that link because, well... The discussion so far has proved this. So i will pick a quote just for you: "Polygon spoke to various development sources who say that the PlayStation 4 dev kit costs about $2,500"
Alright, not off to a great start are we? Next:
Im seeing the thousands of potential Indie devs in their bedrooms right now with not the money to buy these expensive Sony kits.
And i am sure all of these indies will just make absolutely wonderful and revolutionary titles right? Right. And this is with you assuming that these "dev kits" are full blown dev kits (as written in the OP) which of course is wrong. I am not sure if you know, but dev kits don't have an OS overhead or even the same amount of memory than a retail console. So even then, these indies will be restricted by power issues.
The One because Microsoft have cut WAY in front of PS4 by takig out the need to spend, taken out the need to get a publisher.
I am sorry i am going to have to use another gif to express my feelings

I cant even.... Microsoft is WAY ahead of Sony by taking out the need of a publisher? WUT? Sony has been doing this for the last 3 or 4 years (while being praised by indies) while MS literally just announced this "new" policy. Man this is some serious delusion happening here...
Unless Sony give Indie devs PS4 dev kits free, they cant compete with that. Let alone modding.
Well sorry to burst your bubble pal, but they are giving dev kits for free (as madword already told you but i assume you just ignored).
http://www.gamespot.com/news/sony-loaning-out-ps4-dev-kits-to-developers-free-of-charge-for-a-year-6412084
Alot of Sony fans seem to cling to last generations mechanics. They dont seem to be very open minded or think out of the box. Unusual for a crowd who claim to like out of the box game ideas.
The generalization and ridiculousness of this comment doesn't warrant a "full blown" answer. I will just leave it at that. SMH
So there you have it, i wish you would come off from this more enlightned but i am just being foolish.