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Would you attempt to mod or make an Xbox One game yourself

Yes 48 17.52%
 
No 139 50.73%
 
No but I'll play others creations and mods 40 14.60%
 
Modding sucks and its poi... 47 17.15%
 
Total:274
Multimedialover said:

Your so blinkered its scary. Your seeing Indie dev who spent over 10,000 grand on a PS4 devkit as the only devs this gen. 

Im seeing the thousands of potential Indie devs in their bedrooms right now with not the money to buy these expensive Sony kits.

There ( if your not blinkered to the industry as it was last gen ) is your 1000's of unreleased PS4 games that are only released on The One because Microsoft have cut WAY in front of PS4 by takig out the need to spend, taken out the need to get a publisher.

 

  • Also until recently you do know that you needed a publisher to make a game on the XboxOne, even though Sony had already done away with this ages ago. Xbox is trying to follow Sony with it's indie devs as they screwed up so much.

 

So now an Indie dev need $499, free software and can now self publish. Unless Sony give Indie devs PS4 dev kits free, they cant compete with that. Let alone modding.

 

  • So if you had bothered to read my previous posts you will know that Sony is giving Dev kits out to people for FREE. You can continue to ignore that if you wish, as you seem very blinkered.

 

Alot of Sony fans seem to cling to last generations mechanics. They dont seem to be very open minded or think out of the box. Unusual for a crowd who claim to like out of the box game ideas.

Nice people, Not to bright though. The Oracle - The Matrix.

As far as i understand it, there is no cost to a PS4 devkit, as long as you are a company making a game (of reasonable quality) you can get hold of one. So please give me a link to the indie dev who paid £10k for one. You make a statement please quantify it.

I recommend you use the internet more, use Twitter and follow  -  you might actually learn something about indie dev on the PS4/Vita. You may be shocked to find in terms of quality indies (that's what matters right) - Sony are well ahead at the moment. Of course if you have a MS twitter guy who is dealing with indie devs the same as Shahid, please share it.



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Multimedialover said:
bobgamer said:

@Bolded Well that sure is a rich opinion about you coming from you. It can't be biased, right? SMH... (hint: madword is the rational one here)

BTW, i followed the discussion between you guys and i must say, multimedialover, where have you been in the last 6 months? You know, those months in which Sony hasn't received a single indie dev complain, and in fact only praises and announcements that their games are going to PS4/PSVita.

@italic We don't even know X1's full one year lineup (going from what microsoft said they have announced 85-95% of the first year first partys titles), and PS4's is even worse considering it's still for the most part an enigma (~30% of firsty year first partys titles announce IIRC). So it's complete reasonable for you to compare both of them at this point in time, right?

Right.

Also, i didn't understand that second bolded part, are you saying in that part that the DS4 is unnusable without further purchases? Wut?

And i hope that you mean in that last sentence is that it's starting to be one sided for Sony, right? Ugh...

And lastly:

Im 1000000000000000000000000000000000% certain, Xbox One will have loads more unique Indie games than PS4 or Wii U could ever imagine. And a massive Modding channell.


LMFAO. I can't - my sides! Ohhh boy, this is just too hilarious for me. That crystal ball of yours mustn't have been cheap for you, and i am sorry to say that you have been scammed by whoever it is that sold it (hint:this is as ridiculous as claim gets),


Your so blinkered its scary. Your seeing Indie dev who spent over 10,000 grand on a PS4 devkit as the only devs this gen. 

Im seeing the thousands of potential Indie devs in their bedrooms right now with not the money to buy these expensive Sony kits.

There ( if your not blinkered to the industry as it was last gen ) is your 1000's of unreleased PS4 games that are only released on The One because Microsoft have cut WAY in front of PS4 by takig out the need to spend, taken out the need to get a publisher.

So now an Indie dev need $499, free software and can now self publish. Unless Sony give Indie devs PS4 dev kits free, they cant compete with that. Let alone modding.

Alot of Sony fans seem to cling to last generations mechanics. They dont seem to be very open minded or think out of the box. Unusual for a crowd who claim to like out of the box game ideas.

Nice people, Not to bright though. The Oracle - The Matrix.

My god do you even do the least amoungt of research in your claims? This is seriously amazing (i am blinkered? just lol man, just lol)

Alright lets see al the nonsense that you posted one by one:

 Your seeing Indie dev who spent over 10,000 grand on a PS4 devkit as the only devs this gen. 

I am sorry, what? See this:http://www.polygon.com/2013/7/24/4553842/so-how-much-does-it-cost-to-develop-for-playstation-4

And i am assuming that you are not going to click in that link because, well... The discussion so far has proved this. So i will pick a quote just for you: "Polygon spoke to various development sources who say that the PlayStation 4 dev kit costs about $2,500"

Alright, not off to a great start are we? Next: 

Im seeing the thousands of potential Indie devs in their bedrooms right now with not the money to buy these expensive Sony kits.

And i am sure all of these indies will just make absolutely wonderful and revolutionary titles right? Right. And this is with you assuming that these "dev kits" are full blown dev kits (as written in the OP) which of course is wrong. I am not sure if you know, but dev kits don't have an OS overhead or even the same amount of memory than a retail console. So even then, these indies will be restricted by power issues. 

The One because Microsoft have cut WAY in front of PS4 by takig out the need to spend, taken out the need to get a publisher.

I am sorry i am going to have to use another gif to express my feelings

I cant even.... Microsoft is WAY ahead of Sony by taking out the need of a publisher? WUT? Sony has been doing this for the last 3 or 4 years (while being praised by indies) while MS literally just announced this "new" policy. Man this is some serious delusion happening here... 

Unless Sony give Indie devs PS4 dev kits free, they cant compete with that. Let alone modding.

Well sorry to burst your bubble pal, but they are giving dev kits for free (as madword already told you but i assume you just ignored). 

http://www.gamespot.com/news/sony-loaning-out-ps4-dev-kits-to-developers-free-of-charge-for-a-year-6412084

Alot of Sony fans seem to cling to last generations mechanics. They dont seem to be very open minded or think out of the box. Unusual for a crowd who claim to like out of the box game ideas.

The generalization and ridiculousness of this comment doesn't warrant a "full blown" answer. I will just leave it at that. SMH


So there you have it, i wish you would come off from this more enlightned but i am just being foolish.



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Multimedialover said:


Your so blinkered its scary. Your seeing Indie dev who spent over 10,000 grand on a PS4 devkit as the only devs this gen. 

Im seeing the thousands of potential Indie devs in their bedrooms right now with not the money to buy these expensive Sony kits.

There ( if your not blinkered to the industry as it was last gen ) is your 1000's of unreleased PS4 games that are only released on The One because Microsoft have cut WAY in front of PS4 by takig out the need to spend, taken out the need to get a publisher.

So now an Indie dev need $499, free software and can now self publish. Unless Sony give Indie devs PS4 dev kits free, they cant compete with that. Let alone modding.

Alot of Sony fans seem to cling to last generations mechanics. They dont seem to be very open minded or think out of the box. Unusual for a crowd who claim to like out of the box game ideas.

Nice people, Not to bright though. The Oracle - The Matrix.

They already do :P 

Entertaining thread by the way, I get a good chuckle out of people who defend a company so vigorously :P Not that I would ever imply someone with an Xbox controller for an Avatar is at all biased :')



Can´t we all agree that it would be awesome if extensive modding started to happen in the future X1 community? It might not happen but it would make the console gaming industry expand greatly, don´t you think?



Puppyroach said:
Can´t we all agree that it would be awesome if extensive modding started to happen in the future X1 community? It might not happen but it would make the console gaming industry expand greatly, don´t you think?

Absolutely agreed. I wish Sony would also make some moves in this area but it doens't seem so likely... :(



Not-so-proud owner of every current-gen system. 

Next-gen is upon us folks!

And some cool and inspiring quotes

“Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.” 
― Oscar Wilde
“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.” 
― Bernard M. Baruch
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I think that the general thought that a portion of this list is not available this Christmas is irrelevant. It probably would have been better to say that "if you are buying a console either way during the Christmas season, here are the reasons to buy XOne:" Sure, they aren't available at launch, but if you were buying a system this Christmas anyway, he is trying to convince you to get the XOne because of its current and future capabilities. Why bother to complain about it either way. Neither system is launched, so all of the proposed features and capabilities are marketing hype until we see them in person.
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I do want one, but not this Christmas. Way too many Wii U games to purchase, starting with SC: Blacklist.



bobgamer said:
Puppyroach said:
Can´t we all agree that it would be awesome if extensive modding started to happen in the future X1 community? It might not happen but it would make the console gaming industry expand greatly, don´t you think?

Absolutely agreed. I wish Sony would also make some moves in this area but it doens't seem so likely... :(


Exactly my point. People in these forums often seem mote inclined to discuss what limitations they see in the consoles we have or those that will come in this next generation (which actually started a year ago :)). The fact is that we are talking about companies that want to make their share holders happy, and choose different strategies to do so. Let us then imagine what this new technology, which both companies created, will bring in terms of new experiences and communities.

I do believe MS has the more future proof console, but would love for the PS4 and X1 to evolve beyond what we currently know of them. And there is where the modding community could be the next big thing. I am a die hard MS and Sega fan, but that doesn´t mean I do not want healthy devlopment of this industry that we, let´s face it, love :).



Halo is not out this year.




       

bobgamer said:
Multimedialover said:

 

And lastly:

Im 1000000000000000000000000000000000% certain, Xbox One will have loads more unique Indie games than PS4 or Wii U could ever imagine. And a massive Modding channell.

LMFAO. I can't - my sides! Ohhh boy, this is just too hilarious for me. That crystal ball of yours mustn't have been cheap for you, and i am sorry to say that you have been scammed by whoever it is that sold it (hint:this is as ridiculous as claim gets),

I don't see the funny part since Xbox 360 indie titles outnumber PS3 indie ones by the hundreds........

XBLA has released more quality higher end downloadable indie games then PSN has, every year.

Xbox 1 having a built in dev kit will only solidify this.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.