and excactly how is that not agianst the advice given by the 911 operator? she(I believe it was a she) said we don't need to to do that; following Travyon and he does it anyway, the juror who spoke to ABC said the exact same thing...I guess it a matter of how you interpret it/

and not to be snarky but really, someone without the facts? were you apart of the Prosecution/Defense team or a Juror who hasn't come out yet? unless you got the evidence first-hand then your in the same boat I am.

wow you need to go back and look at how the evidence in the trial got handled.  Zimmermans defense didnt get vast portions of it until just before the trial, and had to send requests over and over for it.  The entire way they got the run around and the judge allowed character information about zimmerman, but said anything about TM was off limits.  He was getting off via appeal no matter what for how bias the judge was.  There was no evidence at all that shows zimmerman starting the altercation.  The 911 operator didnt say stay in,they said "we dont need you to" as he was already out of the damn car.  and by "they always get away"  was the string of burglaries that no one was caught for.  The cops never charged him because when they arrived on scene they used their experience and training to determine it was self defense.

lets go through step by step,   TM walks home from the store. Not a crime.  GZ sees him and thinks is suspicious so calls police. Not a crime.  GZ gets out of the car to give police more information. Not a crime.  TM attacks GZ and smashes his skull into a concrete side walk.  This is aggravated assualt.  GZ shoots TM.  Thats called self defense.

TM wasnt some young kid, he was an aging teenager.  and When i was an aging teenager, i know i hell of alot of kids at school who would attack someone older.  The was taller then GZ and in better shape, and had bragged about being a good fighter.  GZ's personal trainer called GZ a little bitch

wow you need to go back and look at how the evidence in the trial got handled.  Zimmermans defense didnt get vast portions of it until just before the trial, and had to send requests over and over for it.  The entire way they got the run around and the judge allowed character information about zimmerman, but said anything about TM was off limits.  He was getting off via appeal no matter what for how bias the judge was.  There was no evidence at all that shows zimmerman starting the altercation.  The 911 operator didnt say stay in,they said "we dont need you to" as he was already out of the damn car.  and by "they always get away"  was the string of burglaries that no one was caught for.  The cops never charged him because when they arrived on scene they used their experience and training to determine it was self defense.

lets go through step by step,   TM walks home from the store. Not a crime.  GZ sees him and thinks is suspicious so calls police. Not a crime.  GZ gets out of the car to give police more information. Not a crime.  TM attacks GZ and smashes his skull into a concrete side walk.  This is aggravated assualt.  GZ shoots TM.  Thats called self defense.

TM wasnt some young kid, he was an aging teenager.  and When i was an aging teenager, i know i hell of alot of kids at school who would attack someone older.  he was taller then GZ and in better shape, and had bragged about being a good fighter.  GZ's personal trainer called GZ a little bitch

So TM starts the altercation? Lmao this is hilarious. How the hell is someone bragging about something not related to the incident evidence? How come GZ violent past is not used as evidence? Who the hell cares who was bigger or was in better shape? How is that concrete evidence that Trayvon started the altercation? Also someone can claim self defense and still get manslaughter (which this clearly was).

So TM starts the altercation? Lmao this is hilarious. How the hell is someone bragging about something not related to the incident evidence? How come GZ violent past is not used as evidence? Who the hell cares who was bigger or was in better shape? How is that concrete evidence that Trayvon started the altercation? Also someone can claim self defense and still get manslaughter (which this clearly was).

yes all the evidence, and the 6 jurors agree that TM did start the altercation.  And i love your reasoning that its alright to exclude TM's past violence, attempts to buy a gun and drug use.  But its okay to include Gz's police training and other evidence relating to his character.  TM was 100 yards from his house, and over 40 yards from zimmerman when zimmerman lost sight of him.  4 minutes later the altercation began.   He could have just went home, but he didnt. He turned around and went after GZ. 

but actually you know what im done with you. youve already proven to be so ignorant to the facts you thought it was tried by tm's defense attorney and called it low budget. I dont trust that you would be able to go back over evidence and make a reasonable conclusion and i dont wanna get worked up explaining basic facts to someone who can grasp it.  Go back to believing what you want in your own little world because in the end. the jury got it right and an innocent man is left to pick up whats left of his life.

It was a he. And you can't go against something when there isnt anything to go against. He was already following Martin when the 911 dispatcher suggested it AND after he suggested it Zimmerman said Okay. He didn't do it anyway... where the fuck are you getting your information from? Oh wait main stream media who portrayed him as a racist because he said "fucking coons" (even though the prosecution even said he said fucking punks)

Yes, all evidnece points to TM starting it and GZ ending it. Bragging about wanting a rematch with someone because "they didn't bleed enough" just is background to what type of person TM was. It clearly shows the more likely scenario is he started the fight. And by GZ violent past? LOL you mean when a plain clothed officer harrassed his buddy without identifying himself as an officer and GZ pushed him away from his friend? Thats called loyalty. Someone Id like to be in my corner. You know the guy who pulls a family from an overturned vehicle. The kind of guy who gets charges against a police officer for abusing a homeless black male. The guy who mentors low income families. Not some drug abusing thug who steals jewlry and starts fights