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keroncoward on 01 July 2013
Mythmaker1 said:
Zero999 said:

by the time EA's main 2013 games release, wii u installed base will be about 5M

Perhaps. That's only a guess on your part, though. And that 5 million figure, which you hold as an estimate for future sales was being used as a comparison to the sales of the XboxOne and Playstation4 in the present.  It's unreasonable to assume one and not the other.

Even so, there are other factors that discourage EA from investing in the platform. Because they also face competition from a massively dominant first-party publisher in Nintendo, it's reasonable to assume they could find their games muscled-out to a far greater degree than on other platforms. This is especially the case since their games don't find the degree of success on Nintendo platforms as the do on others, even when the install base is markedly higher.


True but the opportunity of selling their games is long lost. So far Nintendo has not released anything worth getting a Wii U besides NSMBU so that excuse would make no sense at this point. I dont think i have ever seen EA try to market their games on a Nintendo system so they really should not complain about sales. Also most of the sport games they did release were 2012 versions with an updated roster and 2013 logo. I have FIFA 13 for Wii U and its a fact for that game and i have heard people complain about the same for Madden. They have no one to blame but themselves....they complained about the Wii hardware not being powerful enough to get the same version as PS360 and now the Wii U has surpassed those consoles it gets the same gimped versions so no logical reason. They cant even give a straight honest answer to those questions anytime gaming journalist ask them.



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Cobretti2 on 01 July 2013
twilight_link said:
there is no market for multiplatform games on Nintendo platforms, even if they turn WiiU to success, this ship sailed generations ago.

I expect after this Christmas even Ubisoft will terminate any support

Agreed that the ship saled. However it saled at different stages.

For example, before COD got big, it was doing comparible numbers on all three consoles. Then when COD skipped Wii it was all over. Every COD fan had gone to HD Platforms.

Even if games liek COD etc come out on time, they will not sell unless a new audience grows on the Wii U for these tpyes of games.



 

 

Mythmaker1 on 02 July 2013
keroncoward said:
Mythmaker1 said:
Zero999 said:

by the time EA's main 2013 games release, wii u installed base will be about 5M

Perhaps. That's only a guess on your part, though. And that 5 million figure, which you hold as an estimate for future sales was being used as a comparison to the sales of the XboxOne and Playstation4 in the present.  It's unreasonable to assume one and not the other.

Even so, there are other factors that discourage EA from investing in the platform. Because they also face competition from a massively dominant first-party publisher in Nintendo, it's reasonable to assume they could find their games muscled-out to a far greater degree than on other platforms. This is especially the case since their games don't find the degree of success on Nintendo platforms as the do on others, even when the install base is markedly higher.


True but the opportunity of selling their games is long lost. So far Nintendo has not released anything worth getting a Wii U besides NSMBU so that excuse would make no sense at this point. I dont think i have ever seen EA try to market their games on a Nintendo system so they really should not complain about sales. Also most of the sport games they did release were 2012 versions with an updated roster and 2013 logo. I have FIFA 13 for Wii U and its a fact for that game and i have heard people complain about the same for Madden. They have no one to blame but themselves....they complained about the Wii hardware not being powerful enough to get the same version as PS360 and now the Wii U has surpassed those consoles it gets the same gimped versions so no logical reason. They cant even give a straight honest answer to those questions anytime gaming journalist ask them.

I'll grant you that. They certainly did have an opportunity to take advantage of the situation, though I don't imagine it would have made much difference, looking back. In the end, I doubt EA could have realistically pushed consoles themselves, which means the Wii U would still be in pretty much the same situation. While they could undoubtedly have produced better ports of games, the fact most of those games really were ports means that even good ports might not have given them the sales they'd expect for the extra effort.

There's also the matter of other next-gen consoles. It could be that, when they got more details about them, the other next-gen consoles seemed a more attractive proposition than the Wii U. At that point, it'd make sense to concentrate all their resources on those consoles, which would leave the Wii U hanging dry.

It might not have been the best decision, whatever the reasoning, but there are ways in which it could be viewed as a reasonable business decision.



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happydolphin on 02 July 2013
chapset said:
Na, they must be hating Nintendo after all this is what vgchartz as taught me, it's not like their games don't sell enough and that's why they are not porting anything anymore

It is trollish when testing the FB2 engine on the U when it is clock speed intensive, and extrapolating the performance results onto FB3, and basically relegating the WiiU to sub-PS360 status, in a PR statement.

If it isn't trolling, it's an absolute failure of engineering.



Proxy-Pie on 02 July 2013
chapset said:
Na, they must be hating Nintendo after all this is what vgchartz as taught me, it's not like their games don't sell enough and that's why they are not porting anything anymore


the games don't sell because they're shit ports, look at Fifa 13, it's 12 with an 2013 logo slapped on it with some character roster improvments, why the hell woul I buy a half-assed game?



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Barozi on 02 July 2013
Zero999 said:
Barozi said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

At least their being honest now, saying before that the Wii U was too weak to run Frostbite 3 and then having it run on 360/PS3 was ridiculous, idk how they thought they could get away with that.  Also I might be thinking of a different engine, but didn't they say they were bringing the engine to smart phones, but at that same time they also said it couldn't run on the Wii U...-.- what...

They never said that, but no one bothers to read the real quotes.

They said they tried it with Frostbite 2, hadn't too promising results and didn't bother to try with Frostbite 3.
That never meant that it was impossible. It meant that they A) had to put more work into it or B) downgrade it.

and that was an even worse lie than saying it can't run frostbite 3

If you're so paranoid to think that, then fine but so far the one who is spreading a lie is you.



Proxy-Pie on 02 July 2013
Barozi said:
Zero999 said:
Barozi said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

At least their being honest now, saying before that the Wii U was too weak to run Frostbite 3 and then having it run on 360/PS3 was ridiculous, idk how they thought they could get away with that.  Also I might be thinking of a different engine, but didn't they say they were bringing the engine to smart phones, but at that same time they also said it couldn't run on the Wii U...-.- what...

They never said that, but no one bothers to read the real quotes.

They said they tried it with Frostbite 2, hadn't too promising results and didn't bother to try with Frostbite 3.
That never meant that it was impossible. It meant that they A) had to put more work into it or B) downgrade it.

and that was an even worse lie than saying it can't run frostbite 3

If you're so paranoid to think that, then fine but so far the one who is spreading a lie is you.

what lie is he spreading exactly?



Cleary397 on 02 July 2013
MohammadBadir said:
Mythmaker1 said:
Cleary397 said:
Low priority?
I guess an install base of 5 million is too low for their games...
so they bet on 2 consoles which have an install base of.... wait.... 0..... theyre not released yet.

Well played EA.


5 million? Sorry, that's not even close.

As for the new systems, their games have a history of selling well on previous systems, and have large followings from fans on those systems. It's not too much of a stretch.


4 million is close to 5 million :P


And its certianly a whole lot closer than Xbox One and PS4 sales at the moment :P



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Barozi on 02 July 2013
MohammadBadir said:
Barozi said:
Zero999 said:
Barozi said:

They never said that, but no one bothers to read the real quotes.

They said they tried it with Frostbite 2, hadn't too promising results and didn't bother to try with Frostbite 3.
That never meant that it was impossible. It meant that they A) had to put more work into it or B) downgrade it.

and that was an even worse lie than saying it can't run frostbite 3

If you're so paranoid to think that, then fine but so far the one who is spreading a lie is you.

what lie is he spreading exactly?

I've already bolded it in his post.



Proxy-Pie on 02 July 2013
Barozi said:
MohammadBadir said:
Barozi said:
Zero999 said:
Barozi said:

They never said that, but no one bothers to read the real quotes.

They said they tried it with Frostbite 2, hadn't too promising results and didn't bother to try with Frostbite 3.
That never meant that it was impossible. It meant that they A) had to put more work into it or B) downgrade it.

and that was an even worse lie than saying it can't run frostbite 3

If you're so paranoid to think that, then fine but so far the one who is spreading a lie is you.

what lie is he spreading exactly?

I've already bolded it in his post.

honestly, who the hell believed EA in the first place? if Frostbite 3 can run on the PS360, then why can't it on the Wii U which is more powerful? if Crysis 3 with the CryEngine 3 ran on the Wii U "beautifully" on the Wii U, why can't Frostbite 3 run on it?