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Cleary397 said:
Low priority?
I guess an install base of 5 million is too low for their games...
so they bet on 2 consoles which have an install base of.... wait.... 0..... theyre not released yet.

Well played EA.


5 million? Sorry, that's not even close.

As for the new systems, their games have a history of selling well on previous systems, and have large followings from fans on those systems. It's not too much of a stretch.



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Mythmaker1 said:
Cleary397 said:
Low priority?
I guess an install base of 5 million is too low for their games...
so they bet on 2 consoles which have an install base of.... wait.... 0..... theyre not released yet.

Well played EA.


5 million? Sorry, that's not even close.

As for the new systems, their games have a history of selling well on previous systems, and have large followings from fans on those systems. It's not too much of a stretch.


4 million is close to 5 million :P



UltimateUnknown said:
KungKras said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Finally no more BS and just straight to the point.

If Wii U ever sells well enough I'm sure they'll bring the next Battlefield or whatever else they're making to the platform. Now the ball is on Nintendo's quarter to sell some consoles.

You're just swallowing the new BS that they decided to stick with.......

No, EA is a business and they'll go where money is. If Nintendo paid them enough cash (and I'm talking higher than they got for Titanfall), then even Battlefield could be exclusive to Wii U. EA doesn't have this make believe relationship with MS/Sony that makes them not publish on Nintendo platforms. It's either MS/Sony pays them to get their stuff on their platform (and keep it exclusive) or its that their software sells on the aforementioned platforms because their target audience is on those platform. That's just how it goes.

You're taliking about the company whose founder threw chairs (or was it his shoe?) when his investors forced him to make games for NES. Whose boss demanded a sports games monopoly from Sega, and becuase they rightfully refused, left money on the table on Dreamcast (NFL 2k sold more than Madden that year). The same company, that when making Joe Montana Football, sabotaged the game to make Madden look better. The same company that illegaly reverse-engineered the Megadrive to get favourable licensing deals from Sega. You're telling me, with a straight face, that this company is not above having favourites when it comes to console makers?



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UltimateUnknown said:
KungKras said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Finally no more BS and just straight to the point.

If Wii U ever sells well enough I'm sure they'll bring the next Battlefield or whatever else they're making to the platform. Now the ball is on Nintendo's quarter to sell some consoles.

You're just swallowing the new BS that they decided to stick with.......

No, EA is a business and they'll go where money is. If Nintendo paid them enough cash (and I'm talking higher than they got for Titanfall), then even Battlefield could be exclusive to Wii U. EA doesn't have this make believe relationship with MS/Sony that makes them not publish on Nintendo platforms. It's either MS/Sony pays them to get their stuff on their platform (and keep it exclusive) or its that their software sells on the aforementioned platforms because their target audience is on those platform. That's just how it goes.


PS4 and Xbox One has no gamers currently. If youre saying they were paid to bring those games to those systems then i would suggest they were also paid by Sony/Microsoft to bash the Wii U. The only third party that tries to bring their games to all consoles equally from a BUSINESS perspective is Activision. I dont think its a mere coincidence that they back tracked on their statements now that they are changing their Origin online pass strategy because Microsoft is not doing DRM. What they are basically doing now is telling us what we all knew all along (Wii U can run Frostbite 3 and UE4)



MohammadBadir said:
Mythmaker1 said:
Cleary397 said:
Low priority?
I guess an install base of 5 million is too low for their games...
so they bet on 2 consoles which have an install base of.... wait.... 0..... theyre not released yet.

Well played EA.


5 million? Sorry, that's not even close.

As for the new systems, their games have a history of selling well on previous systems, and have large followings from fans on those systems. It's not too much of a stretch.


4 million is close to 5 million :P

According to VGChartz, it's still around 3.2 million. So even 4 million is pretty optimistic. And being off by a million isn't that close when you only have four to spare...or are you joking?



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KungKras said:
UltimateUnknown said:
KungKras said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Finally no more BS and just straight to the point.

If Wii U ever sells well enough I'm sure they'll bring the next Battlefield or whatever else they're making to the platform. Now the ball is on Nintendo's quarter to sell some consoles.

You're just swallowing the new BS that they decided to stick with.......

No, EA is a business and they'll go where money is. If Nintendo paid them enough cash (and I'm talking higher than they got for Titanfall), then even Battlefield could be exclusive to Wii U. EA doesn't have this make believe relationship with MS/Sony that makes them not publish on Nintendo platforms. It's either MS/Sony pays them to get their stuff on their platform (and keep it exclusive) or its that their software sells on the aforementioned platforms because their target audience is on those platform. That's just how it goes.

You're taliking about the company whose founder threw chairs (or was it his shoe?) when his investors forced him to make games for NES. Whose boss demanded a sports games monopoly from Sega, and becuase they rightfully refused, left money on the table on Dreamcast (NFL 2k sold more than Madden that year). The same company, that when making Joe Montana Football, sabotaged the game to make Madden look better. The same company that illegaly reverse-engineered the Megadrive to get favourable licensing deals from Sega. You're telling me, with a straight face, that this company is not above having favourites when it comes to console makers?

EA brought decent support to the Wii (at least on par with most 3rd parties if not better) given it's sizeable install base even though a lot their flagship titles still sold better on other platforms. So I see no reason for them to suddenly stop making games for Nintendo because of this unforseen hatred. I won't comment on Origin integration on Wii U because it is still a rumour. Maybe if it was true then perhaps that could be a reason, but even that is a business decision.

While I personally don't play much of any EA games, I don't think it's fair to just corner EA as the only 3rd party who is ignoring the Wii U. There are many more. Saying all of them don't publish on Wii U due to some kind of bias seems far fetched to me. From what I understand, publishers look at the install base, the cost for porting and predict whether they'd sell enough copies to make a decent profit. Right now Wii U doesn't seem to be a good investment from their perspective. The perception that Wii U's audience not being the same of the PS360 audience who buys certain types of games 3rd parties make may also be a factor, but that's just my own outlook.



 

keroncoward said:
UltimateUnknown said:
KungKras said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Finally no more BS and just straight to the point.

If Wii U ever sells well enough I'm sure they'll bring the next Battlefield or whatever else they're making to the platform. Now the ball is on Nintendo's quarter to sell some consoles.

You're just swallowing the new BS that they decided to stick with.......

No, EA is a business and they'll go where money is. If Nintendo paid them enough cash (and I'm talking higher than they got for Titanfall), then even Battlefield could be exclusive to Wii U. EA doesn't have this make believe relationship with MS/Sony that makes them not publish on Nintendo platforms. It's either MS/Sony pays them to get their stuff on their platform (and keep it exclusive) or its that their software sells on the aforementioned platforms because their target audience is on those platform. That's just how it goes.


PS4 and Xbox One has no gamers currently. If youre saying they were paid to bring those games to those systems then i would suggest they were also paid by Sony/Microsoft to bash the Wii U. The only third party that tries to bring their games to all consoles equally from a BUSINESS perspective is Activision. I dont think its a mere coincidence that they back tracked on their statements now that they are changing their Origin online pass strategy because Microsoft is not doing DRM. What they are basically doing now is telling us what we all knew all along (Wii U can run Frostbite 3 and UE4)

I don't think it's so much as EA being paid to bring their games to PSONE (lol) as it is the fact that EA's main games have sold best on PS360. So I am assuming they are making a bet that the same audience who bought the PS360 will return to the PSONE and won't migrate away to the Wii U or other platforms. I don't think by any means that EA handled the Wii U in a good manner, especially how they said certain engines couldn't run on the machine when they could run on current gen platforms. I do agree with you that it could have been due to their partnership with MS. I mean they are heavily partnering with MS this upcoming gen with exclusive content to even a huge AAA exclusive game which is unheard of in this day and age. So there is likely some connection there since they are probably receiving boatloads of money from MS. I would laugh though if they indeed partnered with MS due to their DRM policies and then got screwed over later when MS ended up backtracking. That would be hilarious. Guess we'll never know.



 

Barozi said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

At least their being honest now, saying before that the Wii U was too weak to run Frostbite 3 and then having it run on 360/PS3 was ridiculous, idk how they thought they could get away with that.  Also I might be thinking of a different engine, but didn't they say they were bringing the engine to smart phones, but at that same time they also said it couldn't run on the Wii U...-.- what...

They never said that, but no one bothers to read the real quotes.

They said they tried it with Frostbite 2, hadn't too promising results and didn't bother to try with Frostbite 3.
That never meant that it was impossible. It meant that they A) had to put more work into it or B) downgrade it.

and that was an even worse lie than saying it can't run frostbite 3



Cobretti2 said:
they focusing where the gamers are? those two consoles have no units sold yet in people's hands lol.

lol,that's exactly what I mentioned somwhere else.



funny, last time I checked the WiiU had 3+m and the PS4 and Xbone has 0 units sold





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