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snyps on 28 June 2013
Mr Puggsly said:

Kids don't get fat from vending machines. They get fat from the high quantity of food they eat away from school.

These laws are a complete waste of time.


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Mr Puggsly on 28 June 2013
snyps said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Nah, they would eat McDonalds or pizza and chase that with some chocolate cake.

I'm fine with letting kids eat what they want. I don't want to punish skinny kids from having a snack because of fatties.


I've found that its the skinny ones that live on junk and the fat ones that eat junk after food.. Junk tricks the body.  In other words its the skinny ones I'm worried about. The fat ones need to eat smaller quantities.

No, the skinny ones have better metabolisms. The fat ones have crappy metabolisms.

Also, what do we consider junk? Fruit and veggies seem to be the only things considered healthy.

Anyhow, lets just punish the fatties. Not make everyone suffer.



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snyps said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Kids don't get fat from vending machines. They get fat from the high quantity of food they eat away from school.

These laws are a complete waste of time.


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No, you broke it!

I stopped eating food I consider bad. So no fast food burgers, pizza, chinese food, and I don't a lot of wheat (bread, cookies, etc). I still consume a lot of calories, I just avoid those foods and it has kept my weight in a good place.



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LiquorandGunFun on 28 June 2013

yay more nanny state treatment from the kleptocracy that is the US government.



 

snyps on 28 June 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
snyps said:


I've found that its the skinny ones that live on junk and the fat ones that eat junk after food.. Junk tricks the body.  In other words its the skinny ones I'm worried about. The fat ones need to eat smaller quantities.

No, the skinny ones have better metabolisms. The fat ones have crappy metabolisms.

Also, what do we consider junk? Fruit and veggies seem to be the only things considered healthy.

Anyhow, lets just punish the fatties. Not make everyone suffer.

junk is edible but lacks nutrition.  Grape juice off the shelf is junk compared to grapes You juiced.  Fast food hamburgers (34% beef) are junk compared to meat You grind into burger.  Processed frozen microwave dinner is junk compared to high-temp short-time roasting.

 

make them all suffer by teaching them responsibility.



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the2real4mafol on 28 June 2013
SlayerRondo said:
the2real4mafol said:
This is good but people will find there way to unhealthy food somehow. Unhealthy food should be more expensive than healthy food though, which could help with people's health

And what if people want to eat unhealthy food more than to be healthy?

If you tax unhealthy food why not tax sedentary activities? A 30% book tax to encourage exercise? 

I saddens me how little respect there is for individual liberty nowdays.

This will unevenly effect the poor as the rich can just choose more expensive food if they want it more healthy, but the poor simply have to choose food that taste worse if they can't afford unhealthy food that taxing it will do.

People need to start taking care of themselves better rather than relying on government taking away all the bad choices they can make.

I guess people should stop being so lazy and educate themselves. There is a lot we can do ourselves, you are right there but most people think it's inconvienient but if they choose the healthier stuff and put more effort in now they would reap the benefits in health when they get older. I mean what's stopping us from cooking from scratch or even growing our own food? Absolutely nothing. It's cheaper, tastes better and isn't full of pesticides or any other shit. We need to change our mindset on stuff like food. 

I just though a "fat tax" would help but if people want something they will pay any price for it. I can see that with cigarettes, which went from £5 to £7 for 20 in about 5 years mostly because of higher taxes but most people never quit because of price. 



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SlayerRondo on 28 June 2013
the2real4mafol said:
SlayerRondo said:
the2real4mafol said:
This is good but people will find there way to unhealthy food somehow. Unhealthy food should be more expensive than healthy food though, which could help with people's health

And what if people want to eat unhealthy food more than to be healthy?

If you tax unhealthy food why not tax sedentary activities? A 30% book tax to encourage exercise? 

I saddens me how little respect there is for individual liberty nowdays.

This will unevenly effect the poor as the rich can just choose more expensive food if they want it more healthy, but the poor simply have to choose food that taste worse if they can't afford unhealthy food that taxing it will do.

People need to start taking care of themselves better rather than relying on government taking away all the bad choices they can make.

I guess people should stop being so lazy and educate themselves. There is a lot we can do ourselves, you are right there but most people think it's inconvienient but if they choose the healthier stuff and put more effort in now they would reap the benefits in health when they get older. I mean what's stopping us from cooking from scratch or even growing our own food? Absolutely nothing. It's cheaper, tastes better and isn't full of pesticides or any other shit. We need to change our mindset on stuff like food. 

I just though a "fat tax" would help but if people want something they will pay any price for it. I can see that with cigarettes, which went from £5 to £7 for 20 in about 5 years mostly because of higher taxes but most people never quit because of price. 

I agree 100% that educating people, and more importantly people educating themselves can provide for better health without necessarily sacrificing enjoyment of food. 



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the2real4mafol on 28 June 2013
SlayerRondo said:
the2real4mafol said:
SlayerRondo said:
the2real4mafol said:
This is good but people will find there way to unhealthy food somehow. Unhealthy food should be more expensive than healthy food though, which could help with people's health

And what if people want to eat unhealthy food more than to be healthy?

If you tax unhealthy food why not tax sedentary activities? A 30% book tax to encourage exercise? 

I saddens me how little respect there is for individual liberty nowdays.

This will unevenly effect the poor as the rich can just choose more expensive food if they want it more healthy, but the poor simply have to choose food that taste worse if they can't afford unhealthy food that taxing it will do.

People need to start taking care of themselves better rather than relying on government taking away all the bad choices they can make.

I guess people should stop being so lazy and educate themselves. There is a lot we can do ourselves, you are right there but most people think it's inconvienient but if they choose the healthier stuff and put more effort in now they would reap the benefits in health when they get older. I mean what's stopping us from cooking from scratch or even growing our own food? Absolutely nothing. It's cheaper, tastes better and isn't full of pesticides or any other shit. We need to change our mindset on stuff like food. 

I just though a "fat tax" would help but if people want something they will pay any price for it. I can see that with cigarettes, which went from £5 to £7 for 20 in about 5 years mostly because of higher taxes but most people never quit because of price. 

I agree 100% that educating people, and more importantly people educating themselves can provide for better health without necessarily sacrificing enjoyment of food. 

Yep my family cook nearly everything from scratch and we could never go back to processed foods. We are working class as well, so it is certainly affordable. 



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Euphoria14 on 28 June 2013
SlayerRondo said:


Then why do people need to tax fast food more? Given that the stew option is so cheap (and for some people to time consuming) why don't people go for it if it's more healthy?

Because they Chose not to, simply as that. And if i choose to eat junk food and you choose to eat healthy that's fine. If i come crying to you some day if i eat to much that i need medical healp or something, tell me to fuck off.

If i want a candy bar and not an apple, that's my choice, not your's.

You're right, it is your choice.

Problem is however that you choose to eat like crap and get yourself totally unhealthy and I have to pick up the tab and pay $70/week for healthcare so you can keep eating garbage.

 

I wish we could just tell people who treat their bodies like shit to "fuck off", that way my rates might actually drop.

 

 

Edit - Just read your other reply to Kaz and it seems that while you like to eat garbage you actually agree with me.



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Mr Puggsly on 28 June 2013
snyps said:

junk is edible but lacks nutrition.  Grape juice off the shelf is junk compared to grapes You juiced.  Fast food hamburgers (34% beef) are junk compared to meat You grind into burger.  Processed frozen microwave dinner is junk compared to high-temp short-time roasting.

 

make them all suffer by teaching them responsibility.

Or let them consume whatever they want because its their bodies. That sounds good to me.



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