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Mr Puggsly said:
KungKras said:

Eating healthy is not 'being punished'

If parents want to feed their kids crap, they're perfectly free to do so at home.

Being forced to eat healthy is because of fatties is absolutely punishment. Having your rights stripped is punishment.

More like if people want to have some freedom, do it at home.

It's not the school's place to offer every type of food on the planet anyway. So is the lack of Phad Thai in schools also a stripped away right? Healthy food doesn't even have to be gross, so nobody is being punished.



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weaveworld said:
nuckles87 said:
weaveworld said:
Yeah let's take away the task of parenting...


Parents don't have much to do with what a child decides to buy at a school lunch.

In any case, these rules are fine, though I'm not surprised people are complaining. If you don't like what's being sold, many students can just bring their own lunch. I understand not all students can afford to do that, but school lunch was never exactly great to begin with. If your going to sell kids crap, might as well be healthy crap.

They have almost everything to do with the choices their kids make...

Kids are smart, but they are barbarians. You really think they're going to listen to what their parents tell them to eat when they aren't there to enforce it?

Have you ever been a kid?



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KungKras said:

It's not the school's place to offer every type of food on the planet anyway. So is the lack of Phad Thai in schools also a stripped away right? Healthy food doesn't even have to be gross, so nobody is being punished.

Offering healthier options in the lunch room is fine. But taking away foods and snacks they enjoy is crap. That is a punishment.



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KungKras said:
weaveworld said:
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weaveworld said:
Yeah let's take away the task of parenting...


Parents don't have much to do with what a child decides to buy at a school lunch.

In any case, these rules are fine, though I'm not surprised people are complaining. If you don't like what's being sold, many students can just bring their own lunch. I understand not all students can afford to do that, but school lunch was never exactly great to begin with. If your going to sell kids crap, might as well be healthy crap.

They have almost everything to do with the choices their kids make...

Kids are smart, but they are barbarians. You really think they're going to listen to what their parents tell them to eat when they aren't there to enforce it?

Have you ever been a kid?

Nope i certainly don't think that and most of times i still am.

It wasn't about kids buying the 'wrong' food. It was about parents being an important part of the eating habits a kid creates. Or takes over probably in the problematic cases. Kids buy the food they like, it's up to parents to make sure they also eat enough of the 'right' food in the first place.

And my 2nd post was a direct answer at the bolded. Parents (should) have big influences on kids behaviour. Otherwise... bad parenting. (most of the times)



the2real4mafol said:
SlayerRondo said:
the2real4mafol said:
SlayerRondo said:
the2real4mafol said:
This is good but people will find there way to unhealthy food somehow. Unhealthy food should be more expensive than healthy food though, which could help with people's health

And what if people want to eat unhealthy food more than to be healthy?

If you tax unhealthy food why not tax sedentary activities? A 30% book tax to encourage exercise? 

I saddens me how little respect there is for individual liberty nowdays.

This will unevenly effect the poor as the rich can just choose more expensive food if they want it more healthy, but the poor simply have to choose food that taste worse if they can't afford unhealthy food that taxing it will do.

People need to start taking care of themselves better rather than relying on government taking away all the bad choices they can make.

I guess people should stop being so lazy and educate themselves. There is a lot we can do ourselves, you are right there but most people think it's inconvienient but if they choose the healthier stuff and put more effort in now they would reap the benefits in health when they get older. I mean what's stopping us from cooking from scratch or even growing our own food? Absolutely nothing. It's cheaper, tastes better and isn't full of pesticides or any other shit. We need to change our mindset on stuff like food. 

I just though a "fat tax" would help but if people want something they will pay any price for it. I can see that with cigarettes, which went from £5 to £7 for 20 in about 5 years mostly because of higher taxes but most people never quit because of price. 

I agree 100% that educating people, and more importantly people educating themselves can provide for better health without necessarily sacrificing enjoyment of food. 

Yep my family cook nearly everything from scratch and we could never go back to processed foods. We are working class as well, so it is certainly affordable. 

I used to get fast food every day for lunch, but ever since i started making my own sandwiches my lunch's are tastier, healthier and more conveinent. 



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weaveworld said:
nuckles87 said:
weaveworld said:
Yeah let's take away the task of parenting...


Parents don't have much to do with what a child decides to buy at a school lunch.

In any case, these rules are fine, though I'm not surprised people are complaining. If you don't like what's being sold, many students can just bring their own lunch. I understand not all students can afford to do that, but school lunch was never exactly great to begin with. If your going to sell kids crap, might as well be healthy crap.

They have almost everything to do with the choices their kids make...


....how is mother going to tell Little Timmy what lunch he is going to buy at school?

Even in Elementary school, I picked whatever the heck I wanted out of what they were serving. Parents don't have control here. How can they? They aren't even in the building. Do parents stand over their kids shoulders now and tell them what to get?

Mr Puggsly said:







KungKras said:

Eating healthy is not 'being punished'


If parents want to feed their kids crap, they're perfectly free to do so at home.



Being forced to eat healthy is because of fatties is absolutely punishment. Having your rights stripped is punishment.


More like if people want to have some freedom, do it at home.




 

 

...kids don't have "rights". They live under a lot of rules and restrictions. Everyone is effectively a second class citizen until he or she is an adult. Parents and teachers have pretty free reign in what they can tell their kids to do (without crossing some VERY OBVIOUS lines, mind). A parent can mandate that a child will only eat certain things. So can a school. Unless the kid is following some weird religion that requires they ONLY eat shitty food, anyway.



Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Joking of course, good to see when I was in high school all it we got to eat was Burgers, Pizza Fried Chicken etc... I think you get the point.