People don't need to think outside the box as everything they need to know is right in front of them. They are already looking at it in a real world sense whether it applies to here and now or years in the future.

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Purchasing and usage of titles:

• With XBox One you can buy games retail or digital, however both options end up being digital. Both options require an internet connection and ability to log into Live daily in order to access the games you purchased.
• With PS4 you can buy games retail or digital, however both options remain as is and nothing changes. Both options do not require an internet connection in order to access the games you purchased.

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Reliance on the service and the big "what ifs" of the future:

• If god forbid PSN goes down, you can still play your games. If god forbid Sony leaves the gaming space you can still access all games you have purchased.
• If god forbid LIVE goes down, you are shit out of luck and can't play any of your games. If god forbid MS leaves the gaming space you are shit out of luck and you lose all access to any and all games you have purchased.

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Second hand market and trading of games with friend:

• With XBox One you are able to trade in your retail discs to approved retailers for store credit or able to sell them to a friend if they have been on your friends list for 30-days. No private sales, no free lending to friends. Everything has a restriction.
• With PS4 you are able to trade in your games to any retailer who dabbles in used games sales and can freely trade and/or sell to friends or any random stranger through outlets such as eBay, Craigslist, Amazon, etc... giving you the option to search for the maximum return on your product. No restrictions.

The box that I was talking about is people automatically hating the online registration DRM, just becuase it has it. In the real world, policies can change. But if the system doesn't have it from the start, then it's not universal. This is where the 360 failed with the optional hard drive. This where the PS3 failed with the no vibration in controller, because it's last gen.

Xbox One will have mandatory registration from the start. Lets say some PS4 devs decide they also want to protect their games the same way as Xbox One. Guess what, you just became fragmented. Some games will have an online counterpart and some games won't. Your online library will be lacking some games, unless you purchase the online counterpart. Like you said, you can go strictly digital, if you want to. That would be the only way to garuntee you registered as owning a game.

There is something that PS4 doesn't have. It's TV... :P

Ok, for real now. You can transfer your license to other people, you can't do that on PS4. Which could be another option of selling your game. Where else can you sell a digital copy you bought?

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being that whenever next gen consoles come out it is highly unlikely to utilize the same x86 architecture, or silicon based chips, there is no way that the games are future proof as they wouldn't run on the next gen consoles. Alternatively, the Gakai streaming service is way more future friendly as it can utilize older or compatible hardware to run previous gen games now and in the future.

Who knows? Maybe next next gen will be powerful enough to run Xbox/360/One software. All we know is that your xbl account holds all your digital licenses and it can tell whatever console/phone/pc you are running what you own. If that piece of equipment can use that game, it'll let you pull it. Therefore your games will always be in your library, even if you can't play them.

Gakai sounds good, but I won't be using it on my PS4. It'll eat up too much bandwidth to stream in HD. If the connection slows down it'll downsample and look shifty. I'd rather keep my PS3 and play my games in full HD.

Xbox One can evolve if the way it's working isn't ideal. The Xbox 360 evolved. What makes people think the One is going to be just what it is? The 360 console actually added more features to it's hardware too along the years. While other consoles evolved by taking components away. The OS evolved almost every year. At least MS is taking the steps to evolve gaming. Other companies have been taking a wait and see approach and impliment things that have been proven. Now they are implementing DRM to build your digital library. They take the heat for it now. If it works out, other consoles will proabably impliment it too.  

We'll see how it turns out. I just hope they got the 24 hour check wrong.

Ah, I gotcha, and yes I know that when it comes to digital it is nice that you can sell your games. However, I believe if you buy a game from someone that way it becomes locked to your account permanently. I could be mistaken, but I am pretty confident that is the case. 

Still, it's much better than any other digital selling option you have, even with it's catches.

Originally when I heard about the registration thing I was hoping it was a system where the game comes with a re-usable code that can only be linked to one system at a time, so when selling it you could de-activate the code and the disc is free to go on another console. Kind of like how with itunes how I can only link my device to a certain amount of machines and if I wanted to link it to another I would have to de-activate any of the other machines.

Don't know exactly if they could have done something like that here, but it would have been a nice thing.

@pbroy: I find your first statement a moot point as the forth coming next gen consoles are more than capable of running last gen games. Pragmatically the difference between (worst case scenario this to next gen ps3 to ps4) the next gen and the gen after that will be the greatest difference in architecture since MS DOS was created. If by happenstance a next gen console is created before the switch is made from silicon based chips to nano-fiber/magneto-logic chips then the life-span would be the shortest in history. Since neither of the big 2 took the time nor development to implement backwards compatibility for the upcoming generations of consoles there is even a smaller probability of that happening the following generation as it will be an even bigger gap in tech and architecture.

As far as I know neither console supports licensing from a previous gen, and speculatively it would be easier for MS to do so. However, since that is not the case for either console DRM means nothing for future platforms. Either party could implement the other preferred method of digital ownership and make it future proof, but honestly it would take a little bit of both. With out a backwards compatible cloud service you will not be able to play last gen games on a new console now or in the future. So DRM system by MS is not future proof by any means at all. Meanwhile, Sony does show how that could work with gakai on the ps4. The real question is would either of the 2 provide such a service for free after this gen for backwards compatibility. I think we could all agree it would be highly unlikely unless either implemented a portion of the other's dynamic.

For me, it all comes down to choice. I would rather have more options than more restrictions, especially since I spent my hard earned money on it.

I believe you can future proof anything without making it hard on the community.

Several things:

* You do realize there is a risk of thinking "outside the box" in defense of a company, when this box you are outside of may end up being a box that doesn't even contain what the company you are defending is doing.

* Considering that One does NOT play 360 games, what guarantee do you have that Microsoft is going to enable the ONE content to be playable in the future?  As I have seen this generation unfold, and where we are now, Don Mattrick of Microsoft said backwards compatibility is "very backwards", and companies have repackaged and resold old content.  Sony even did this, and you get people on here cheering it on, saying it is awesome.  

* Companies make NOTHING off of enable people to play their old content.  They just end up allowing it so they don't get ticked off too soon.   So, unless you go with there being a library you pay an ongoing fee to access, it does NO financial good for a company to be able to allow you to keep content between generations.

In short, what I am seeing is you are dealing in a case of rationalizing of wishful thinking and trying to persuade others to agree with you on this.

And futureproofing?  I would say it is like waterproofing.  In both cases, what is the first sylable of the proof word is what is prevented.