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This could be a pretty slick way to sell people on some games too. Imagine if one of your gaming buddies buys the new hot game, "Joe Blow jerks it in public". Now you are sitting there and in the mood for something new and you scan your friend's list and see he happens to be playing. You get in on the jerking fun for a couple of days in a row and now you dig it. Problem is, your buddy is working all week and he won't be playing.........what do you do? A couple of button presses later and now you are downloading your way to public jerking without having to wait for your boy to be playing.



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So if this turns out to be true you are all going to give credit for the amazing feature it is, yes? You're all saying its too good to be true, so its going to be nice to read all your praise.



This feels like when I first heard about PS+ giving away free games and my friend couldn't comprehend it because he said it was too good to be true. I remember how my cousin and I took turns buying XBLA games on each others consoles so we could both own the games together. The real owner just had to be signed into XBL. MS knew about the exploit and never patched it. I guess because with that you had to trust someone enough to actually keep a copy of your profile on their Xbox and not many people would do that.

This is great and it's pretty clear to me since it has been repeated so many times by MS heads and MS support.
- You buy a game and install it to your XO and it is also copied to the cloud.
- You add the 10 people from you "Family" which MS clarified can be anyone they're just using family to describe the group as opposed to something like "Clan".
- You can play all your games whenever you want while those 10 people can play your games as well.
- Only 1 of the 10 can play the same game you are playing at the same time.

The downsides for me is you will probably have to buy DLC and of course if you want to play a game whenever you like then you need to buy it yourself. Therefore if someone is sharing the new popular game out (Call of Duty) then everyone is gonna want to play it and probably won't be content waiting their turn for the day or week or however the group works it out.

I think the confusion comes in because people are confusing lending the game disc to a friend and selling/giving the game to someone/friend. Also I think the giving a game to a friend thing solves the ebay/craigslist personal selling issue. You just have to have the person on your friends list for 30 days and you can complete the sale as usual. This can also help with bogus sales as you know some info about the person just in case they are trying to scam you.

All in all this doesn't sound to good to be true...



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slowmo said:
So if this turns out to be true you are all going to give credit for the amazing feature it is, yes? You're all saying its too good to be true, so its going to be nice to read all your praise.

Yes. I will back off and stop hating on the xbone. It is an awesome feature that MS omitted highlighting despite the wave of negativity they are getting hit with. Therefore, we are all skeptic. You don't think we the right to be skeptic?



Yeah publishers are going to love this.



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Euphoria14 said:
chapset said:
Euphoria14 said:

Okay, after reading different explanations from different people I came to one conclusion on how this works, if we are to trust what the support team said.

 

  1. Gamer buys an XBox One.
  2. Gamer adds (10) people to his/her Family Group. This is called "Family Group" because it is looked at as how gaming functions within (1) household.
  3. These (10) people gain access to Gamer's entire library. However, they can't just play whatever they want, whenever they want. 
  4. When Gamer is playing a title (1) member of Gamer's Family Group can join in and play along with them. This is where the (1) at a time limit comes into play.
  5. If Gamer is playing no games the members of his/her Family Group are unable to play any of Gamer's games.
Out of the (2) scenarios I posted I believe this one to be the most realistic.

This make the most sense and would prevent abuse and it would be their way to remove split-screen multiplayer

Yes and while not exactly the same thing, it is somewhat similar to when Sony stated how you could be playing a game and if you needed help you could allow a friend to stream the game to their console and have them play portions of your game for you. They are features that try to replicate the advantages of multiple gamers being in one place without actually having to be in one place. Both features require the owner of the game to be playing the game.

wow yeah, your explination sounds far more plausible than what i was previously thinking.  and you're right, it sounds a lot like the feature sony stated other than to the best of my knowledge sony never said it was limited to just 10 people.  cool feature though.



This seems to be a huge feature - I just wonder why Microsofts PR didn't use this as a selling point. I am actually quite ok with everything mentioned so far about the Xbox One but understand why so many are turned off by their DRM-/Online-restrictions. MS clearly does a very poor job in selling their new console as of now (excluding their strong games line-up) and Sony exploits this weakness heavily.

Yes, for now, we can only speculate what to make of this, but even considering possible not-mentioned details, I cannot image that this turns out to be bad for customers.
Furthermore, as many have argumented in this thread, this feature is just in theory exploitable but practically the risk for this to effectivily happen is rather small:
- while a game is *hot*, it would be inconvenient for your 10 friends-family to wait until it is their turn
- gamesharing via big forums? that would be even more inconvenient; who buys the games? how are the costs shared? does the actual game owner really want to change his "family" all the time, just because random guys want to try the game?! no way...

It sounds like a smart feature in many ways (not only for consumers). Of course Sony is able to copy that. But if it turns out to be true, then Sony actually has to come up with something similar.



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Yeah, mods, this thread is a PERFECT example of a clear positive thing for gamers about the Xbox One and the usual Sony trolls are RUINING it by trying to make it a negative. So we really have to send a list of all of these instances in a email before anything is done? Because that's a lot of work when these same individuals do it CONSTANTLY on the site.



Darth Tigris said:
Yeah, mods, this thread is a PERFECT example of a clear positive thing for gamers about the Xbox One and the usual Sony trolls are RUINING it by trying to make it a negative. So we really have to send a list of all of these instances in a email before anything is done? Because that's a lot of work when these same individuals do it CONSTANTLY on the site.


Yup.

I'm not going to post here anymore for the time being because of the new "XBONE" posting.

People need to be dealt with now before we go back to the old days of slagging MS off in every other thread with little basis and no interesting discussion at all and simply done by loser fanboys..

I just came back from holiday in Ibiza and logged on a couple of times when there to check what happened at E3 on a phone and the thread titles are just sad.

Talking on topic though, it's downright hilarious that the same people who hate the idea of used games sales because the pblisher won't get any extra money from each sale suddenly change their tune when things like this crop up.

This place is going to be N4G before we know it if action isn't taken right now. That is not a site I go for informed and sensible discussion.



fillet said:
Darth Tigris said:
Yeah, mods, this thread is a PERFECT example of a clear positive thing for gamers about the Xbox One and the usual Sony trolls are RUINING it by trying to make it a negative. So we really have to send a list of all of these instances in a email before anything is done? Because that's a lot of work when these same individuals do it CONSTANTLY on the site.


Yup.

I'm not going to post here anymore for the time being because of the new "XBONE" posting.

People need to be dealt with now before we go back to the old days of slagging MS off in every other thread with little basis and no interesting discussion at all and simply done by loser fanboys..

I just came back from holiday in Ibiza and logged on a couple of times when there to check what happened at E3 on a phone and the thread titles are just sad.

Talking on topic though, it's downright hilarious that the same people who hate the idea of used games sales because the pblisher won't get any extra money from each sale suddenly change their tune when things like this crop up.

This place is going to be N4G before we know it if action isn't taken right now. That is not a site I go for informed and sensible discussion.

How about you two participate in the discussion here instead of playing victims? These kind of posts serves nothing but derailing. The discussion has been healthy for the most part, particularly in this thread.