Who is the judge when it comes to a game being easy or not? Which is the bar? You?

Is Zelda a very easy game? I really don't think it's "really easy" for the masses, it's quite difficult to complete 100% and easy to get stuck with, not for a long time follower of the series like myself or you perhaps, but yes for those just starting or not accustomed to play puzzle or quest solving games/enemy fights. And Zelda's difficulty doesn't emanate from other players, as opposed with multiplayer heavy games like COD or Halo, it comes from the imaginative and carefully crafted design by very capable and talented devs. Nintendo does try to help the player, now more than in previous gens, there are far more hints and things are easier to spot in order not to get stuck, or you have the super guide, but that's your choice, I choose not to spoil anything and continue until I overcome the hurdle. Find me any game which single player campaign lasts an average of 50 hours, JUST to finish it for the first time, not going for 100%.

By your definition no game is really hard, therefore not hardcore. Halo is easy, Assassin's Creed is easy, Prince of Persia is easy, Resident Evil is easy, Dead Space is easy. I mean, I have had no problems with those games, therefore they must becasual games, because I am the bar which needs to be followed if you want to know if a game is hardcore or not. I've found Candy Crush Saga (A facebook game) quite more difficult than Resident Evil 5 and I've proabably poured more hours into it. Hence we can conclude that RE5 is an game which should be dismissed by cores due to its inherent status of "easy", and people should definitely embrace games like Lost Bubble or Candy Crush Saga due to their superiority as they are harder. Let's just ignore the production values, the replay value, the design value of such games. If you can't finish a game, then that's a true core game. Games you can finish, wtf, they are so easy, not worth anyone's time.

Moving on, Smash Bros Brawl is definitely a failure. 11.5 million games, on a userbase of 100 million? around 10% of all potential sales is horrific. However, when this mediocre selling game number 8 in the best selling Wii exclusive list, beats single handedly all exclusive PS3 games and all but one of the 360 exclusives, then we can know for a fact that PS3 and 360 are not machines that many people want, they are niche. The only popular and acclaimed game outside of Wii's other 7 games on top of Smash, is Kinect Adventures. The 360 is clearly a casual machine, as we can conclude from this very educated and thought out post. Not our fault that we have garnered the education that was needed to see things that no one did before.

Uncharted, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, Halo, Mass Effect, and Skyrim are easy too, but I bet you'd call at least some of them "core" games.

And regardless of install base, 10 million plus IS a massive number for a console exclusive. And it's predecessor, Melee, sold 7 million on the 22 million selling Gamecube.

Those games are all mature though, and certainly not as easy as something like Mario Karts. 

So in a best case scenario (also read utterly implausible) SSB will help shift 8 million consoles, meaning the Wii U taps out at 10 mill. Yeah that's guarenteed 3rd place.

Those games are all mature though, and certainly not as easy as something like Mario Karts. 

So in a best case scenario (also read utterly implausible) SSB will help shift 8 million consoles, meaning the Wii U taps out at 10 mill. Yeah that's guarenteed 3rd place.

Who is the judge when it comes to a game being easy or not? Which is the bar? You?

Is Zelda a very easy game? I really don't think it's "really easy" for the masses, it's quite difficult to complete 100% and easy to get stuck with, not for a long time follower of the series like myself or you perhaps, but yes for those just starting or not accustomed to play puzzle or quest solving games/enemy fights. And Zelda's difficulty doesn't emanate from other players, as opposed with multiplayer heavy games like COD or Halo, it comes from the imaginative and carefully crafted design by very capable and talented devs. Nintendo does try to help the player, now more than in previous gens, there are far more hints and things are easier to spot in order not to get stuck, or you have the super guide, but that's your choice, I choose not to spoil anything and continue until I overcome the hurdle. Find me any game which single player campaign lasts an average of 50 hours, JUST to finish it for the first time, not going for 100%.

By your definition no game is really hard, therefore not hardcore. Halo is easy, Assassin's Creed is easy, Prince of Persia is easy, Resident Evil is easy, Dead Space is easy. I mean, I have had no problems with those games, therefore they must becasual games, because I am the bar which needs to be followed if you want to know if a game is hardcore or not. I've found Candy Crush Saga (A facebook game) quite more difficult than Resident Evil 5 and I've proabably poured more hours into it. Hence we can conclude that RE5 is an game which should be dismissed by cores due to its inherent status of "easy", and people should definitely embrace games like Lost Bubble or Candy Crush Saga due to their superiority as they are harder. Let's just ignore the production values, the replay value, the design value of such games. If you can't finish a game, then that's a true core game. Games you can finish, wtf, they are so easy, not worth anyone's time.

Moving on, Smash Bros Brawl is definitely a failure. 11.5 million games, on a userbase of 100 million? around 10% of all potential sales is horrific. However, when this mediocre selling game number 8 in the best selling Wii exclusive list, beats single handedly all exclusive PS3 games and all but one of the 360 exclusives, then we can know for a fact that PS3 and 360 are not machines that many people want, they are niche. The only popular and acclaimed game outside of Wii's other 7 games on top of Smash, is Kinect Adventures. The 360 is clearly a casual machine, as we can conclude from this very educated and thought out post. Not our fault that we have garnered the education that was needed to see things that no one did before.

WTH? Are You feeling Alright? Your not making any sense O.o →→→→I read your other post, in your logic 12% attach ratio is bad? Dont make me laugh! Thats absurd.

Whether something is "mature" or not has nothing to do with whether it is core.

This second statement is just preposterous; you're concluding that every Wii U sold from now onwards will only be pushed by SSB? 

Those games are all mature though, and certainly not as easy as something like Mario Karts. 

So in a best case scenario (also read utterly implausible) SSB will help shift 8 million consoles, meaning the Wii U taps out at 10 mill. Yeah that's guarenteed 3rd place.

Whether something is "mature" or not has nothing to do with whether it is core.

This second statement is just preposterous; you're concluding that every Wii U sold from now onwards will only be pushed by SSB? 

You have such a flawed logic... Mature doesn't equel core game. Wouldn't that mean that strategy games isn't core at all? Star Craft isn't mature per say, and neither is Europa Universalis or Total War, so I guess those aren't core if a core game has to be mature... As far as I know CoD is a core game, is it not? It's mature, I'll give you that, but is it hard? No, it isn't. It's easy.

I get the feeling that he'd think 12% attach rate was excellent if it was the attach  rate of a PS3/360 game.