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Vinniegambini said:
Soundwave said:
Screamapillar said:

To give an update on the stock situation, Nintendo is currently trending downward, following the release of the NPD results last night of only 66,000 Wii U's sold in the U.S. during February.  3DS sales and Fire Emblem numbers provided them with some good news, though.   It wasn't all bad.

They are expecting to meet their guidance of 4 million Wii U's sold worldwide by the end of March.  If anything, Iwata's shareholder briefing at the end of April will be more about drumming up strengths of future product launches later this year, and less about dwelling on weak console sales in January and February.  What's in the past is in the past, and I think now that Monster Hunter and LEGO City are coming out in the west, Wii U can only grow from here.  The software drought is officially over.


I don't think they are going to meet 4 million Wii Us shipped but we'll see. Maybe they can barely squeeze it out.

They will meet the 4 million shipped to retail; however, the software projection of 16 million software will significantly be decreased to 13 million due to lack of software releases.

They shipped 830k in Japan by December 2012 - 830k sold as of last week.

They shipped 1.3 million in the Americas (Canada, U.S., Mexico, etc.) by December 2012 - 1.05 U.S. + 100k Canada as of February.

They shipped 900k in Others (Europe, Australia) - NA


The European sell through was horrid though, they hadn't even sold through like more than half of what they shipped through Christmas, meaning there's a lot of inventory sitting on retail store shelves, so a retailer is unlikely to order more.

They shipped 1.05 million for North America too but still haven't sold through 1 million and we're sitting here in March. They probably did get a chance to channel stuff a bit with that Zombi U bundle though.

This is the slowest selling home console for Nintendo in the US for sure out of the gate (barring the NES which was given a limited release in the NYC area).



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ShinMitsugi said:

The fact that the company is trading near it's 52 weeks low (its down again today), DESPITE the NIKKEI and NASDAQ being at all time record highs says a lot.    

The Nasdaq is nowhere near its all time record high.   On March 10, 2000  it reached 5,048.62, today it closed at 3,249.07.    Nikkei also reached its record highs in 1989.



Soundwave said:
Vinniegambini said:
Soundwave said:
Screamapillar said:

To give an update on the stock situation, Nintendo is currently trending downward, following the release of the NPD results last night of only 66,000 Wii U's sold in the U.S. during February.  3DS sales and Fire Emblem numbers provided them with some good news, though.   It wasn't all bad.

They are expecting to meet their guidance of 4 million Wii U's sold worldwide by the end of March.  If anything, Iwata's shareholder briefing at the end of April will be more about drumming up strengths of future product launches later this year, and less about dwelling on weak console sales in January and February.  What's in the past is in the past, and I think now that Monster Hunter and LEGO City are coming out in the west, Wii U can only grow from here.  The software drought is officially over.


I don't think they are going to meet 4 million Wii Us shipped but we'll see. Maybe they can barely squeeze it out.

They will meet the 4 million shipped to retail; however, the software projection of 16 million software will significantly be decreased to 13 million due to lack of software releases.

They shipped 830k in Japan by December 2012 - 830k sold as of last week.

They shipped 1.3 million in the Americas (Canada, U.S., Mexico, etc.) by December 2012 - 1.05 U.S. + 100k Canada as of February.

They shipped 900k in Others (Europe, Australia) - NA


The European sell through was horrid though, they hadn't even sold through like more than half of what they shipped through Christmas, meaning there's a lot of inventory sitting on retail store shelves, so a retailer is unlikely to order more.

They shipped 1.05 million for North America too but still haven't sold through 1 million and we're sitting here in March. They probably did get a chance to channel stuff a bit with that Zombi U bundle though.

This is the slowest selling home console for Nintendo in the US for sure out of the gate (barring the NES which was given a limited release in the NYC area).

You are wrong. They shipped over 1.3 million in the Americas - 1.1 million was allocated to the U.S., Canada 100k, and Mexico + Latin America countries 100k

The system in U.S. sold 440k in Nov., 460k in Dec, 55k in January, 66k in February - Grand total 1.02 million sold according to NPD figures ;) Sorry to disappoint.



Vinniegambini said:
Soundwave said:
Vinniegambini said:
Soundwave said:
Screamapillar said:

To give an update on the stock situation, Nintendo is currently trending downward, following the release of the NPD results last night of only 66,000 Wii U's sold in the U.S. during February.  3DS sales and Fire Emblem numbers provided them with some good news, though.   It wasn't all bad.

They are expecting to meet their guidance of 4 million Wii U's sold worldwide by the end of March.  If anything, Iwata's shareholder briefing at the end of April will be more about drumming up strengths of future product launches later this year, and less about dwelling on weak console sales in January and February.  What's in the past is in the past, and I think now that Monster Hunter and LEGO City are coming out in the west, Wii U can only grow from here.  The software drought is officially over.


I don't think they are going to meet 4 million Wii Us shipped but we'll see. Maybe they can barely squeeze it out.

They will meet the 4 million shipped to retail; however, the software projection of 16 million software will significantly be decreased to 13 million due to lack of software releases.

They shipped 830k in Japan by December 2012 - 830k sold as of last week.

They shipped 1.3 million in the Americas (Canada, U.S., Mexico, etc.) by December 2012 - 1.05 U.S. + 100k Canada as of February.

They shipped 900k in Others (Europe, Australia) - NA


The European sell through was horrid though, they hadn't even sold through like more than half of what they shipped through Christmas, meaning there's a lot of inventory sitting on retail store shelves, so a retailer is unlikely to order more.

They shipped 1.05 million for North America too but still haven't sold through 1 million and we're sitting here in March. They probably did get a chance to channel stuff a bit with that Zombi U bundle though.

This is the slowest selling home console for Nintendo in the US for sure out of the gate (barring the NES which was given a limited release in the NYC area).

You are wrong. They shipped over 1.3 million in the Americas - 1.1 million was allocated to the U.S., Canada 100k, and Mexico + Latin America countries 100k

The system in U.S. sold 440k in Nov., 460k in Dec, 55k in January, 66k in February - Grand total 1.02 million sold according to NPD figures ;) Sorry to disappoint.

Ah so they did finally manage to eek past 1 million sell through in the US. 

Still, if anyone's dissapointed its Nintendo, that is a slower sell through than even the Dreamcast had in the US. 

I think Europe probably still has a glut of inventory, my guess is they will end up around 3.7 million shipped by the end of March, just missing their target. If they channel stuff maybe they can push it to 4 million, but they will probably lose some long term goodwill with retailers if they do that. 



Soundwave said:
Screamapillar said:

To give an update on the stock situation, Nintendo is currently trending downward, following the release of the NPD results last night of only 66,000 Wii U's sold in the U.S. during February.  3DS sales and Fire Emblem numbers provided them with some good news, though.   It wasn't all bad.

They are expecting to meet their guidance of 4 million Wii U's sold worldwide by the end of March.  If anything, Iwata's shareholder briefing at the end of April will be more about drumming up strengths of future product launches later this year, and less about dwelling on weak console sales in January and February.  What's in the past is in the past, and I think now that Monster Hunter and LEGO City are coming out in the west, Wii U can only grow from here.  The software drought is officially over.


I don't think they are going to meet 4 million Wii Us shipped but we'll see. Maybe they can barely squeeze it out.

They probably sold a little less than 120k Wii Us combined for Feburary between the US and Japan, and Europe is likely less than either of those markets.

I also don't see LEGO City being a hit. No licensed property (ie: Star Wars, Harry Potter, Batman, etc.) and no co-op will limit its appeal dramatically. If "Lego Star Wars" was a generic unlicensed "Space Sci Fi LEGO" game, I don't think it would've done 1/10th of the sales. 

I forget which analayst said so, but it was just after the NPD results came in that one of the more prominent analysts that continuously makes predictions said that according to his firm's data, they said Nintendo is looking very likely to hit their goal of 4 million.  I don't know how either, but apparently it's happening. 



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Wouldn't the shifting yen/dollar let Nintendo sell the Wii U for much cheaper?

They should now be able to sell the Wii U basic for $249.99 and the premium for $299.99 and not take any more of a hardware loss than they were selling the system in November for $300/$350 simply because yen/dollar fluctuations.

Now that the January/Feburary drought is over (hopefully), March should usher in at least some new releases.

Drop the 8GB basic to $249.99 and bundle it with Nintendo Land. Nintendo Land is going to have to be a sacrificial goat for the Wii U but oh well, it probably didn't cost a ton to develop anyhow.

Drop the 32GB model to $299.99 and bundle it with Nintendo Land and NSMBU.


Get Pikmin 3 out for April/May, Wonderful 101 for June/July, localize Dragon Quest X for the West and offer a couple of months of free online play for the summer. Rush a Bayonetta 1 Directors Cut out to the market for summer. You need some freaking content Nintendo, that's a start at least.

Offer a free digital download of an HD version of Xenoblade to "Wii U ambassadors" in June.  



@ The LastStarFighter:   this discussion is ridiculous to begin with because who gives a rats ass about the exchange rate?  Nintendo can't sell their Wii's now, BEFORE the other consoles release.    Instead, You ought to be discussing whether or not the Wii U is the next Sega Saturn. 

Then, look at the title of this thead.  "Nintendo Soars!"  Where? Into the toilet? Nintendo lost $512 million last year NET INCOME, and the stock has been trending downward consistently since 2008.  The stock is currently near its 52 week low and near the level it was at in 2004.  If you don't believe me, here is a link to the stock data from Yahoo! Finance.  http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=NTDOY&t=5y&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=

On Wednesday, the stock was up something like 5% and so TheLastStarFighter makes a statement like "NINTENDO SOARS!" And then look, the next 2 days, Nintendo sheds all but 1.5% of that gain.  Talk about a reactionary statement.  Not something a claimed "Expert" would do.  

The point was the the sentiment in the market is incredibly positive at the moment and yet Nintendo's stock is near the 52 week low.  Of course, considering the company lost $512 last year and will probably lost even more this year based on the less than anticipated sales of the Wii U, of course nobody is going to be investing in Nintendo.



ShinMitsugi said:

@ The LastStarFighter:   this discussion is ridiculous to begin with because who gives a rats ass about the exchange rate?  Nintendo can't sell their Wii's now, BEFORE the other consoles release.    Instead, You ought to be discussing whether or not the Wii U is the next Sega Saturn. 

Then, look at the title of this thead.  "Nintendo Soars!"  Where? Into the toilet? Nintendo lost $512 million last year NET INCOME, and the stock has been trending downward consistently since 2008.  The stock is currently near its 52 week low and near the level it was at in 2004.  If you don't believe me, here is a link to the stock data from Yahoo! Finance.  http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=NTDOY&t=5y&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=

On Wednesday, the stock was up something like 5% and so TheLastStarFighter makes a statement like "NINTENDO SOARS!" And then look, the next 2 days, Nintendo sheds all but 1.5% of that gain.  Talk about a reactionary statement.  Not something a claimed "Expert" would do.  

The point was the the sentiment in the market is incredibly positive at the moment and yet Nintendo's stock is near the 52 week low.  Of course, considering the company lost $512 last year and will probably lost even more this year based on the less than anticipated sales of the Wii U, of course nobody is going to be investing in Nintendo.


There we go, it took a little prodding but you finally came out of your shell.  You have joined this forum to make posts on 3 threads involving Nintendo, and your comments are all just bashing Wii U.  It seems you just came on here to agitate, which is sad.  You should try to find more positive things to do.



Soundwave said:

Wouldn't the shifting yen/dollar let Nintendo sell the Wii U for much cheaper?

They should now be able to sell the Wii U basic for $249.99 and the premium for $299.99 and not take any more of a hardware loss than they were selling the system in November for $300/$350 simply because yen/dollar fluctuations.

Now that the January/Feburary drought is over (hopefully), March should usher in at least some new releases.

Drop the 8GB basic to $249.99 and bundle it with Nintendo Land. Nintendo Land is going to have to be a sacrificial goat for the Wii U but oh well, it probably didn't cost a ton to develop anyhow.

Drop the 32GB model to $299.99 and bundle it with Nintendo Land and NSMBU.


Get Pikmin 3 out for April/May, Wonderful 101 for June/July, localize Dragon Quest X for the West and offer a couple of months of free online play for the summer. Rush a Bayonetta 1 Directors Cut out to the market for summer. You need some freaking content Nintendo, that's a start at least.

Offer a free digital download of an HD version of Xenoblade to "Wii U ambassadors" in June.  

I always enjoy your posts, Soundwave, whether I agree with them or not.  I think the weak yen definitely makes Wii U price cuts in the west viable.  I think it should and will happen, but not just yet. They need the software out at the same time.  I think they also want to know the Sony/MS pricing strategy.  Once a figure is announce, Nintendo can drop to undercut further.  Personally I would like to see an imediate price drop following e3 in June.  Not unlike Sony's show-stopping Playstation price cut of 1996, Nintendo should use the show floor to announce the cut of $50.  I think they shouldn't just cut the Basic though, I think they should drop it all together.  Not because of money, but because I think 8 gig isn't big enough. I can see trouble down the road for things like game patches and so on.  Get rid of it now before too many people buy it.



It doesn't matter why I chose to post on this thread.   I just like to point out ill advised statements when I see them.  Anybody who is experienced in stock trading wouldn't get so excited about a single day of gains of a company on the market.  That person looks pretty unintelligent when those gains are lost the very next 2 days. Sort of makes that person look like they don't know what they're talking about.  

Then the person says how much the depreciated yen is helping Nintendo.  However, on second thought, you make a comparative graph of Nintendo and the $/Yen's 12 month stock and currency market perperformance http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=1y&s=USDJPY%3DX&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=NTDOY%2C+%5EN225%2C+&ql=1&c=%5EDJI and you think to yourself...wow, maybe there isn't a correlation.  I also added the DOW and the NIKKEI just so you could see how poorly Nintendo has done despite the growing confidence in the global economy.

Pretty concrete evidence in a lack of confidence in Nintendo considering the major Japanese and US composite exchanges rise while Nintendo falls.

Let's remember kids, reactionary statements regarding the stock market....not a good idea.