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RolStoppable said:
curl-6 said:

I know games get delayed, but a date is still better than "TBA" when it comes to the "light at the end of the tunnel"  effect.

And yeah, I think  we did discuss this before, I've just gotten a lot more irritated and impatient since then, haha. XD One game from them a month would be good if they can actually maintain that pace, but I worry that they won't be able to; their first four months aren't very encouraging.

Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but at this rate I can just see Wonderful 101 being delayed to after E3, and maybe Mario Kart released to carry the entire second half of the year in terms of big first party games, while 3D Mario, Bayonetta 2, and Yarn Yoshi, all get released next year, or maybe even in 2015. Those are the games I want the console for, those and Monolith's Soft's X. Sadly, they all seem lightyears away. And if I were to buy a Wii U now, there honestly isn't anything I'd really want to get. I mean, I'll pick up Monster Hunter, but even that might get old if it's all that's going to be holding me over for the next six months. I've played hundreds of hours of Tri on Wii, so it'll only be half-new anyway.

E3 should be in early June and since The Wonderful 101 was mentioned as a June game in January (if memory serves me right), it's already pretty clear that it won't release before E3 (but it should come out in the same month). The Wind Waker HD, which you forgot to mention, should be a lock for this year. Good Feel (developer of Yarn Yoshi) needed a good two years to complete Kirby's Epic Yarn after Wario Land: Shake It, so I don't see their latest game slipping into 2014 (KEY was released in late 2010; February 2011 in Europe). EAD Tokyo had finished Super Mario 3D Land by the end of 2011 and part of their staff should have been working on a Wii U game since the release of Super Mario Galaxy 2 in mid-2010. That seems like enough time to have a game ready for the holidays this year. Mario Kart shouldn't be too much of a problem either. And then there's Retro's game. Donkey Kong Country Returns was released in late 2010.

Bayonetta 2 I never had high hopes for in regards to a 2013 release, because for its initial announcement they only showed a teaser trailer, meaning that the game was still very early in production. This game is a likely 2014 release and so is Monolith's X. Even if it releases this year in Japan, JRPGs always take Nintendo a while to localize, so don't expect it anytime soon.

In summary, there's a good bunch of games I am quite sure of to see this year. If the first year is taken as a whole, then it's not going to be too bad. Some of the delays are because Nintendo wants to ship complete games, some of them are for business reasons. They realized that they are going to miss their forecasts no matter what, so they pretty much sacrificed this quarter to start off stronger into their fiscal year 2014. Basically, take a bigger hit this fiscal year, but present a better outlook for the following one.

I didn't forget Wind Waker HD, I deliberately omitted it because I don't like Wind Waker. :p

I kinda expected Bayonetta 2 and X to be 2014, but I at least want to see Yarn Yoshi this year, and if possible 3D Mario also. The second half of this year will have to deliver in a big way if they want to gain some momentum and change the system's unfavourable image.

The problem is, without publicising at last release months, many Wii U owners are going to feel as if nothing is coming. That's the situation at the moment, everything just seems lightyears away. You may be able to extrapolate a possible lineup schedule, but a lot of people need it to be given to them straight.



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I agree with many in this thread. Nintendo dropped the ball on pikmin 3.

This is strange though.
When Nintendo dropped support for the wii, we all assumed they would be putting their full (console) team strength. It seem like either two things happened:

1. Nintendo moved too much people on the 3DS.
2. The internal transition to HD is not going smoothly.

Either way their policy on announcing things need to be improve.



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There are two different management styles. Most companies operate around a release date. So Ubisoft tells a team to make AC4 and it must be done by XX date. That teams makes what they can and releases it. If they leave out things, or do less QA, that's what must be done. They may probably have a good estimate of the time it will take because its an annual release, and they may put in OT, etc to get it done, but it's management toward a date.

Nintendo manages toward a product. When the product is done, it is released. Do whatever it takes to make the product as good as possible, and then it will be shipped. I prefer this style, though it is nice to no AC4 will be available in October. Several other studios follow this mantra, Blizzard being a notable example. Games with outstanding quality tend to be made in this way. It's why Nintendo, Blizzard and others are held in such high regard.

I would say right now there are probably some pretty strong internal deadlines at Nintendo. I would imagine that the MarioKart team knows that they need that title out this Christmas, and several others are on ASAP notice. Pikmin 3, however, I think was never thought to be a system seller and is more of a pet project of Myamoto. It's probably done by a small team that doesn't have the resources to speed things up.



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And Pikmin 3.... dont get me started on that.... Starting to think it wont even release this year :(



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curl-6 said:

I didn't forget Wind Waker HD, I deliberately omitted it because I don't like Wind Waker. :p

I kinda expected Bayonetta 2 and X to be 2014, but I at least want to see Yarn Yoshi this year, and if possible 3D Mario also. The second half of this year will have to deliver in a big way if they want to gain some momentum and change the system's unfavourable image.

The problem is, without publicising at last release months, many Wii U owners are going to feel as if nothing is coming. That's the situation at the moment, everything just seems lightyears away. You may be able to extrapolate a possible lineup schedule, but a lot of people need it to be given to them straight.

Nintendo knows that they have to deliver, so I am not worried about those game releases. They didn't go into denial mode like Sony did with the Vita. Whether there will be a big turnaround in sales has to be seen, but the games will be there.

As for release months, I don't know what to tell you. I can only repeat it so many times that Nintendo has given release months for their first half year lineup in their Nintendo Direct in January. There's a chance that some games get pushed back (there always is), but right now several games have announced release months. I suggest you watch that Direct again, because it seems that gaming websites haven't picked up on it and you don't want to believe me.



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Well, the only reason I can think of is that Nintendo themselves don't know when their games will be ready. Really ready. They're really fussy when it comes to perfecting their games, as we all know. That just takes a lot of time, obviously, and I honestly believe they cannot possibly set firm release dates for their games so far in advance, as they tend to change, adjust and polish (even major) things up to the last minute.



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wasnt Pikmin supposed to be a Wii game in the first place?



RolStoppable said:
Even games with exact release dates can get delayed, so why does this matter? Oh right, the hype. On that note, wouldn't the lack of releasing new information/trailers be a bigger concern than the release date?


This. After the ND we don't know anything about a Wii U game aside from Lego and MH. April need at least a release and I cannot imagine them leaving may enterily to REvelations HD.



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Pikmin 3 was originally suppose to be a Wii game, it's been delayed quite a bit.

I think Nintendo knows none of their games are releasing anytime soon, so they kinda just want to keep the suspense up. While Pikmin 3 and Wii Fit U have a Q2 release, and Wonderful 101 was suppose to be a launch window game, I bet you those games will be releasing much later in the year.

But hey, Nintendo did say Wind Waker HD was an August title.



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Nintendo prefer to only give dates when they're quite certain and are quite strategic in their approach to release dates, we're already aware about their attention to their first party quality but it's not only fans of their games listening the competition is also paying attention as well and knowing when your competition's cards are going to be played helps them as well. It's the same reason Nintendo has clamped down on announcing loads of projects at once but instead sticks to games that are to be released with in the year for most part.