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Sparks on 25 February 2013
Boutros said:
The DS version of Ni No Kuni screwed up everything. Even Level-5 said so in an interview once.

wow this is the first I've heard of a DS version.



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avais1993 on 25 February 2013

Ni no kuni was one of the most entertaining game i've played in a long time, the story was very well done, expecially its plot twist at the end, shame the game was so short though, even with the sidequests and after story i completed it quite quick.



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osed125 on 25 February 2013

Maybe because they don't have Anime style characters and it isn't a FF or DQ game? I honestly don't know lol.



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Torillian on 25 February 2013
Mnementh said:
As I didn't try Ni No Kuni yet, I can only speak for Xenoblade: it may be a JRPG, but it plays and feels like a western RPG. It has taken over all the good points: many side-quests, more or less open-world etc. So, while technically it is a JRPG it is at the heart a WRPG, so it has more success in the West.


Is it really that must of a WRPG?  I mean everything I played reminded me of an MMO and that's definitely not something totally foreign to Japanese consumers.  I'd say it's more more MMORPG than WRPG.  



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IsawYoshi on 25 February 2013
Torillian said:
Mnementh said:
As I didn't try Ni No Kuni yet, I can only speak for Xenoblade: it may be a JRPG, but it plays and feels like a western RPG. It has taken over all the good points: many side-quests, more or less open-world etc. So, while technically it is a JRPG it is at the heart a WRPG, so it has more success in the West.


Is it really that must of a WRPG?  I mean everything I played reminded me of an MMO and that's definitely not something totally foreign to Japanese consumers.  I'd say it's more more MMORPG than WRPG.  

A JWMMORPG it is then



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Mnementh on 25 February 2013
IsawYoshi said:
Torillian said:
Mnementh said:
As I didn't try Ni No Kuni yet, I can only speak for Xenoblade: it may be a JRPG, but it plays and feels like a western RPG. It has taken over all the good points: many side-quests, more or less open-world etc. So, while technically it is a JRPG it is at the heart a WRPG, so it has more success in the West.


Is it really that must of a WRPG?  I mean everything I played reminded me of an MMO and that's definitely not something totally foreign to Japanese consumers.  I'd say it's more more MMORPG than WRPG.

A JWMMORPG it is then

Yes, I must remember this. JWMMORPG. And you both are right, that the adopted mechanics are not specifically WRPG (as nothing really defines JRPG and WRPG beside the country of origin), but for me it felt like Baldur's Gate reborn, so I got the feeling it is more an WRPG.



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outlawauron on 25 February 2013
Otakumegane said:
Mnementh said:
As I didn't try Ni No Kuni yet, I can only speak for Xenoblade: it may be a JRPG, but it plays and feels like a western RPG. It has taken over all the good points: many side-quests, more or less open-world etc. So, while technically it is a JRPG it is at the heart a WRPG, so it has more success in the West.


I see it more as a "Modernized" JRPG done right. Adopts some mechanics of WRPGs but keeps the distinct sense that it's Japanese.

WRPGs were quick to adopt a real-time combat system, sidequests, and an open world.

JRPGs just took a little while longer to adjust.

So just a JRPG adopting some of the modern mechanics already found in WRPGs.

That's one very positive thing to associate with WRPGs (and shouldn't considering there is very little relevance). A lack of narrative and character development is far more common.



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IsawYoshi on 25 February 2013
Mnementh said:
IsawYoshi said:
Torillian said:
Mnementh said:
As I didn't try Ni No Kuni yet, I can only speak for Xenoblade: it may be a JRPG, but it plays and feels like a western RPG. It has taken over all the good points: many side-quests, more or less open-world etc. So, while technically it is a JRPG it is at the heart a WRPG, so it has more success in the West.


Is it really that must of a WRPG?  I mean everything I played reminded me of an MMO and that's definitely not something totally foreign to Japanese consumers.  I'd say it's more more MMORPG than WRPG.

A JWMMORPG it is then

Yes, I must remember this. JWMMORPG. And you both are right, that the adopted mechanics are not specifically WRPG (as nothing really defines JRPG and WRPG beside the country of origin), but for me it felt like Baldur's Gate reborn, so I got the feeling it is more an WRPG.

I talked about this with KHlover, and the thing I got to say about this is that the developer making the last story are situated on hawaii. That is a jrpg game, but should by the whole country of origin thing mean that the game is a wrpg (mind=blown)



Mnementh on 25 February 2013
IsawYoshi said:
Mnementh said:

Yes, I must remember this. JWMMORPG. And you both are right, that the adopted mechanics are not specifically WRPG (as nothing really defines JRPG and WRPG beside the country of origin), but for me it felt like Baldur's Gate reborn, so I got the feeling it is more an WRPG.

I talked about this with KHlover, and the thing I got to say about this is that the developer making the last story are situated on hawaii. That is a jrpg game, but should by the whole country of origin thing mean that the game is a wrpg (mind=blown)

LOL, that's interesting. Didn't knew.



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Sparks on 25 February 2013
IsawYoshi said:
Mnementh said:
IsawYoshi said:
Torillian said:
Mnementh said:
As I didn't try Ni No Kuni yet, I can only speak for Xenoblade: it may be a JRPG, but it plays and feels like a western RPG. It has taken over all the good points: many side-quests, more or less open-world etc. So, while technically it is a JRPG it is at the heart a WRPG, so it has more success in the West.


Is it really that must of a WRPG?  I mean everything I played reminded me of an MMO and that's definitely not something totally foreign to Japanese consumers.  I'd say it's more more MMORPG than WRPG.

A JWMMORPG it is then

Yes, I must remember this. JWMMORPG. And you both are right, that the adopted mechanics are not specifically WRPG (as nothing really defines JRPG and WRPG beside the country of origin), but for me it felt like Baldur's Gate reborn, so I got the feeling it is more an WRPG.

I talked about this with KHlover, and the thing I got to say about this is that the developer making the last story are situated on hawaii. That is a jrpg game, but should by the whole country of origin thing mean that the game is a wrpg (mind=blown)

wow I had no idea about this.