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binary solo on 10 January 2013

Yeah, no. I don't think this one's for me. All the best for those who want to get into it though.



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Goddbless on 10 January 2013

This really looks pretty cool!



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Adinnieken on 10 January 2013
Somini said:
Adinnieken said:
OMG! Microsoft is ripping off Sony yet again. PSEye can totally do this, Sony just chose not to because it didn't work well. Did you not notice how poor the graphics were? Clearly not HD.

/sarcasm


Personaly i think it resembles this one more than the PSEye. This is from 2011 >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrgWH1KUDt4

At first, to the untrained or ill informed, it may appear so, but what you have to understand is that what you're seeing in that video is not the same.

Microsoft is using a projector to create a larger field of view, for the gamer.  In the video you linked, Sony is using a modified Move (they have cameras on them) and the PS Eye to track the camera position so the perspective is always consistent.  It's also a real-time rendering, not a visual projection that the gamer can completely see, and finally it was done in a sterile (read white) room not a realistic representation of a living room. 





Adinnieken on 10 January 2013
Otakumegane said:
D-Joe said:
Otakumegane said:

Hmm. Well you see in Japan the apartments (Most Japanese live in apartments)  are comprised of a central area encompassing the kitchen and living room, not only is it cramped, but typically you would find that most of the family sit on the floor in the living room in their free time. Kinect didn't succeed there not solely on its american image, but the lack of space and time to use it. The Japanese also don't really have parties at their apartments as the walls are pretty thin and it is considered rude to have many people to come over to your house.

This projection thing in all honestly is pretty durn cool. But can be considered very disruptive in a Japanese apartment. I think if microsoft wants to succeed in Japan, they should make this kinect/projection thing completely optional. 

I live in Hong Kong,i can bet my home smaller than 80% Japanese family

And this thing can even play in your small bedroom,it has nothing to do with your room size,unless your small rom have a 50inch TV

And if your family sit on the floor in the living room,do you think it just this tech's problem?you may even can't play PS3 or 360 if your family don't want you play any games at that time.

I'm sure it is ABLE to play in a smaller room, I'm just commenting on the lack of mass market appeal to the average Japanese consumer. 

This is rich.

You're in the US, telling someone from China, who lives in an apartment in Hong Kong, how this won't sell well in Japan.

I think D-Joe may actually be closer to and have a better understanding of the situation than you do in the US.

Factually, 60% of Japanese live in single-family detached homes.  So, no where near the majority of people live in apartments.  Not to mention, the average size of an apartment in Japan is over 1,000 sqft.  While one room mansions (110 sqft) are available, they aren't the norm but rather the exception.  Most apartments are 650 sqft or larger.

So, from your sheltered, ill-informed bedroom in suburbia, what else would you like to educate people on? 



Otakumegane on 10 January 2013
Adinnieken said:
Otakumegane said:
D-Joe said:
Otakumegane said:

Hmm. Well you see in Japan the apartments (Most Japanese live in apartments)  are comprised of a central area encompassing the kitchen and living room, not only is it cramped, but typically you would find that most of the family sit on the floor in the living room in their free time. Kinect didn't succeed there not solely on its american image, but the lack of space and time to use it. The Japanese also don't really have parties at their apartments as the walls are pretty thin and it is considered rude to have many people to come over to your house.

This projection thing in all honestly is pretty durn cool. But can be considered very disruptive in a Japanese apartment. I think if microsoft wants to succeed in Japan, they should make this kinect/projection thing completely optional. 

I live in Hong Kong,i can bet my home smaller than 80% Japanese family

And this thing can even play in your small bedroom,it has nothing to do with your room size,unless your small rom have a 50inch TV

And if your family sit on the floor in the living room,do you think it just this tech's problem?you may even can't play PS3 or 360 if your family don't want you play any games at that time.

I'm sure it is ABLE to play in a smaller room, I'm just commenting on the lack of mass market appeal to the average Japanese consumer. 

This is rich.

You're in the US, telling someone from China, who lives in an apartment in Hong Kong, how this won't sell well in Japan.

I think D-Joe may actually be closer to and have a better understanding of the situation than you do in the US.

Factually, 60% of Japanese live in single-family detached homes.  So, no where near the majority of people live in apartments.  Not to mention, the average size of an apartment in Japan is over 1,000 sqft.  While one room mansions (110 sqft) are available, they aren't the norm but rather the exception.  Most apartments are 650 sqft or larger.

So, from your sheltered, ill-informed bedroom in suburbia, what else would you like to educate people on? 

Lived for Japan for a year, I'm Korean, both countries have a lot of apartments. Yeah I looked it up, there really isn't a majority living in apartments so you're right about that, but from my experience, the homes are a lot smaller than you might think. 



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Otakumegane on 10 January 2013

What I'm saying is that this while it's cool tech shouldn't really be bundled together with the nextbox in Japan at least, making it optional in Japan might help sales there.



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toadslayer72 on 10 January 2013

Japan has proven not to give a shit about MS' console this gen. I wouldn't be surprised if MS said fuck you to Japan next gen anyway.



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Adinnieken on 10 January 2013
Otakumegane said:
What I'm saying is that this while it's cool tech shouldn't really be bundled together with the nextbox in Japan at least, making it optional in Japan might help sales there.


Don't know about Japan, but suggestions (rumors) were that a year after the next Xbox was released, this would be released as an add-on.  I don't recall the suggestion of bundling, due to the high cost. 

Unlike Kinect, this will not be inexpensive, about the same price if not more expensive than the actual console. 



kain_kusanagi on 10 January 2013
thismeintiel said:

This could be pretty cool, though, if you're going to stick to one wall, it should only be used for projecting special effects.  Like the lasers, snow, and fire coming off the edge of the screen.  It definitely shouldn't be used to make the background larger, as the gamplay is still happening onscreen, so it's distracting. 

If I had to be completely honest, I prefer a full room one.


That only works from the studio camera's angle. The guy on the couch saw everything from the wrong angle. It was probably very disorienting. It's little more than a cool tech demo with no imediate practical use while Microsoft is showing what they want to do with a real Xbox and their video shows it working with no camera tricks.



kitler53 on 10 January 2013

kind of cool but MS would be a fool to invest much into this.

most people, like myself, just don't have the right kind of living space to make this work.