I think we have come to an end.

I never said either OS was better than another. I did say I think the majority of users could easily use another OS, like ChromeOS or similar and never touch Windows, but I did say due to Windows dominant position there were clearly advantages to it over others.

I was only attempting to point out that your statement that iOS/Android apps are garbage is wrong. 

I think I came at this in a bad manner and we got into tangent and all we discussed were specific things that were based on old tech that isn't even used commonly anymore or something that is naturally lower in featureset as the device was never intended to be used in that manner; office, photoshop, core gaming, etc.

They are different devices for different purposes. The apps on iOS/Android are designed for mobile experience without a keyboard or mouse. This means they will operate differently, even the same apps, and different does not equal lesser or "garbage".

Let's take Office as an example. You stated, and I agreed, that MSOffice is more robust on Windows than GDocs is and, logically, what MSOffice will be on Android/iOS. However, that does not mean the mobile offering is "garbage". Its simply tailored for a different purpose and audience. At this point, tablets have not had true laptop/PC replacement intentions. OEMs simply never made it a realistic offer. At this point the purpose of a tablet was to be an accompanying device for media, web, games. Does that mean GDocs or the other MSOffice readers/editers were "garbage"? No. Just different and featured based on the intended use on a tablet/phone. i.e. viewing and minor editing.

Android and iOS offer a vast array of apps and features that are better suited for that purpose. Mobile/casual gaming, media playback, traveling entertainment in general, email (voice > typing and far more convienant), skype, G+, taking pictures, netflix, groupon, twitter, navigation, ... there are also a ton of apps that are at worst identical to what's on the PC. Especially considering you can go to the exact same webpage, in desktop mode, and have the exact same experience.

So, in the OP are three mobile offerings and on desktop offering. The mobile products have relatively close prices and similar OS experiences beyond preference. However, they are priced opposite of what the specs offer and its mind boggling why anyone would choose anything but the Nexus10.

Then we have a desktop offering put into a tablet frame. It will be twice the price as the others for that desktop experience. If that's worth it for someone, then that's awesome. However, its specs are comparable to a moble offer that will be less than 1/2 its price and still have a great experience... certainly not "garbage".

I couldn't really find any A6x benchmarks compared to the tegra3 processor. 

But if youre going to compare cameras and screens. Well you'll see that Apple's true intentions are in its aesthetics. What about on the lack of RAM or on the lack of connections? Heck it doesn't even have a freaking USB port. And also what about having thesmallest screen out of the four tablets compared? Did they do this in purpose to increase the ever-so-important pixel density?

Not to mention Surface does offer double the storage in the same price. Not to mention free office. 

Pretty much lol. 

Wait a minute here....when people buy a tablet are they looking for an ever expanding device that lets them plug in external devices?  No they are not.  The whole point of a tablet is that it's a single part device and is easy to carry about.  As someone posted above, the small amount of RAM in the iPad isn't really a problem as the OS doesn't rape the memory to operate, so yes it would be nice to have 2Gb, but it's not essential.

Do you know that Windows RT uses around 6GB of space, so if MS released a 16GB model, only about 10Gb would be available.

With regards to the size of the screen; the iPad started the whole thing off and Apple decided that 9.7" was the perfect size for a tablet.  It's great that MS and Google preferred a slightly bigger screen, but does it make it more portable?

On your final point; yes Surface gives you 32Gb as standard for the same price as the 16Gb model of the iPad, but taking all things into considering, especially seeing as the Surface is running with a CPU/GPU which is the same as a Nexus 7 which is half the price really puts it into perspective.

In short, MS picked the wrong CPU/GPU for the Surface RT, they should have picked a better processor that would give it a bigger kick, so until the Surface PRO is released (and it's likely to be a fortune), the RT is essentially a wasted opportunity.

Also, please give real comparisons between RAM usage of OS/s (RT and iOS) before you assume, it really irritates me. Like when you said that A6X is four times more powerful than tegra 3 when you dont even have any numbers. 

Dont you think that tablets are casing the declineof PC salesover the years? Therefore it is safe to assume that the consumer are looking for more flexibility? IE more connections to external devices like ultrabooks and laptops do? 

And what do you mean that 9.7 is the 'perfect size'. It purely depends on preference. 

What do you mean they chosethe wrong CPU/GPU anyway? I dont see anything wrong with it as long as it functions prperly. 

There's so much talk here about the importance of Microsoft Office, ridiculous claims like everything but Microsoft Office not being suited for company environments etc.

So I'm starting to think it might be a good idea to point out in the table in the opening post that the Microsoft Office version on the Surface RT is a "home & student" version, which in comparison with the usual Microsoft Office versions is not only lacking popular applications like Access and Outlook, but is also missing certain features and support for a number of media types available in the x86 version, so there will be many office documents that don't work on Surface RT tablets even though they work fine on desktop PCs.

But by far the most important disadvantage is that this version is forbidden to be used in "commercial, nonprofit, or revenue-generating activities". Microsoft even particularly pointed this out in press statements. So one might even say that of these three ARM tablets, the one using Windows 8 is actually the only one not suited for work.

Apple decided that 9.7 was the "perfect size" not me.

I can't find any information on Windows RT RAM usage, but iOS 6 will be less than 256Mb in size sitting in RAM at the most.

Graphically, look at the following scores in GLBenchmark for the Nexus 7 (I picked this as it's the same CPU/GPU), iPad 2 and iPad 3

GLBenchmark 2.5 Egypt HD (Offscreen) - Nexus 7 - 1390 (12.3fps), iPad 2 - 1633 (14.5fps), iPad 3 - 3018 (26.7fps)

We don't have iPad 4 results yet, but Apple suggest it will be 2x the iPad 3, so in theory it should be around 4x more powerful than the Tegra 3.

I personally feel that Microsoft chose the wrong chip with Tegra 3 for their entry level Surface.  The chip works well with Android, but it seems to have issues with Windows RT that is all.

The end was actually quite a few posts ago.

I would not describe my experience with either android or ios as great, I think you used a better word in quotes. You keep saying things like exact the same experience, when you have seen yourself that it isn't. I think your mind is just boggling because you might have a slight case of google bias.

You'll have a hard time convincing me that Windows is better than OSX.

Inversely, you'll have a hard time convincing me that OSX is better than Windows.

I prefer OSX because it allows me to work more quickly... My personal workflow environment in OSX is better than Win7. You can find pretty much any app you need for OSX now and the Terminal is a great addition, allowing you into the *nix core. The two platforms are pretty much the equal of each other... OS X has its advantages in some regards (more stability, security) while Windows has the advantage of running on pretty much everything (doubly so now that MS is pushing ARM architecture with RT).

And the comparing of the Surface Pro to the iPad and Nexus is just asinine. Nobody compares Ferraris and Priuses, either. But hey, they're both cars.

The iPad/Nexus is made to do entirely different things than the Surface Pro and they do those things incredibly well (and more every day). They're lighter and easier to use than the Surface Pro will be when it releases. Their battery life is surely going to crush the Pro.

Different machines, different needs, different results, different prices, similar packages. People who are in the market for an iPad/Nexus are probably not even going to consider the Surface Pro and will instead consider the Surface RT, which is the logical competitor to those devices. Trying so bloody hard to put them in the same category just because they look similar is foolish and troll-worthy.

It's not fanboyism. The iOS environment suits my needs and I'm invested in it. To get me to switch back to Android, it would require several leaps forward in both usability and platform stability. Both are good now but they're not any better (and in some cases worse) than iOS. The iPad still has a rather sizeable advantage in apps, as well (though that gap is obviously closing).

$100 doesn't matter to me (the price difference between the Nexus 10 and the iPad 4). The two are similarly specced enough where it's just trolling to start touting one over the other (Nexus has screen advantage, we'll see how each benchmarks but I imagine they'll be very close to one another).

All in all, the Nexus 10 is a hell of an impressive machine but as an iPad owner, i don't see the point in switching. I already have well over $100 in iOS apps. Why would I lose that just to save $100 on hardware on a platform that I don't really care for?