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smbu2000 on 19 September 2012
DarkThanatos said:

2) Oh sorry, I meant docking station and all other accessories for the previous models. 

It's the first time Apple has changed the "30pin" connector since 2003. Prior to this new change, you could re-use your old 30pin dock station accessories with no problems.




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DarkThanatos on 19 September 2012
smbu2000 said:
DarkThanatos said:
 

2) Oh sorry, I meant docking station and all other accessories for the previous models. 

It's the first time Apple has changed the "30pin" connector since 2003. Prior to this new change, you could re-use your old 30pin dock station accessories with no problems.


Exactly. So now I have 9 years of accessories with no use for the new phone.



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FrancisNobleman on 19 September 2012
ethomaz said:

FrancisNobleman said:

 Actually they sell more phones than Apple.

But yes, they are jealous about Apple consumers. They'll buy anything that Apple makes, its like a religion, it's crazy. They can't compete with Apple in the marketing front, no one can.

I really don't like Android... I prefer Windows Phone over it... iOS is better period.

Anyway the iPhone 5 will sell way more than Galaxy S3... the Samsung sold more because have way more models in the market for each market segment.

10 million first week is comming for iPhone 5.

That's your own opinion period.

 

There is a "better" from a developer standpoint, which shall be discussed in a developer point of view (Linux is better than windows), and from a consumer standpoint (windows is better than linux)

To me, as a mere consumer, android just creams all over iOS. You can't do nothing on it, never seen such a trashy operative system on a phone, even the dead Symbian gives you more oportunity to costumization than iOS. You can't choose your ringtone, no wallpaper, lol. OS for children... 

 

Now if you are a developer, I won't argue which one is better for that or not, neither do I care. 



man-bear-pig on 19 September 2012

FrancisNobleman said:

You can't choose your ringtone, no wallpaper, lol.

Yes you can, and yes there is.

iOS is a better OS than Android, and I'm sure the vast majority of people would agree



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ithis on 19 September 2012

Put the Nokia thing in the OP if it exists.



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smbu2000 on 19 September 2012
DarkThanatos said:
smbu2000 said:
DarkThanatos said:
 

2) Oh sorry, I meant docking station and all other accessories for the previous models. 

It's the first time Apple has changed the "30pin" connector since 2003. Prior to this new change, you could re-use your old 30pin dock station accessories with no problems.


Exactly. So now I have 9 years of accessories with no use for the new phone.

So do you expect a company to NEVER change their connector?

All of my old computers had PS/2, Serial, Parallel, ISA, , etc. ports, but they aren't on there now. If ports never changed then all of those old ports would still be on modern computers now.

Oh and...




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FrancisNobleman on 19 September 2012
morenoingrato said:
The childish attitude of some people here is laughable.

2 Million sold in 24 Hours... it takes a genius to make something that big.


A marketing genius. Because on the tech side, there is no genius anywhere to be seen. The phone is inferior to GS3 which was launched half a year ago.

I always said that Apple is the best marketing company, they should the  a marketing 3rd party. Just imagine if they sold their marketing minds to promote other products. Its a guaranteed sale, they completely brainwash people and make them believe that their product is revolutionary when it is not.



FrancisNobleman on 19 September 2012
man-bear-pig said:

FrancisNobleman said:

You can't choose your ringtone, no wallpaper, lol.

Yes you can, and yes there is.

iOS is a better OS than Android, and I'm sure the vast majority of people would agree

Hmmm no you cannot, lol. Unless you put up some tricks, like jailbreaked firmware and shit.



ethomaz on 19 September 2012

FrancisNobleman said:

That's your own opinion period.

 

There is a "better" from a developer standpoint, which shall be discussed in a developer point of view (Linux is better than windows), and from a consumer standpoint (windows is better than linux)

To me, as a mere consumer, android just creams all over iOS. You can't do nothing on it, never seen such a trashy operative system on a phone, even the dead Symbian gives you more oportunity to costumization than iOS. You can't choose your ringtone, no wallpaper, lol. OS for children...

 

Now if you are a developer, I won't argue which one is better for that or not, neither do I care.

That's the exactly oposite... the iOS is the better mobile OS for consumers... best UI... easy, simple, intuitive and fast... that's all. A user don't need to know how config or changes the things like in Android... iOS just works like everyone wants without a previous study.

iOS or Windows Phone today are the best mobile OS in the market... for now iOS is still better than WP but that's can change in the future.

Everyone hate Symbian because it's hard to do anything in the OS... developers, consumers, Nokia, etc... everyone knows the Symbian UI is not friendly like Android.

Edit - In sumary:

OS for Developers: Andorid, Symbian, MeeGo (you need with knowledge to do everything the product is designed to)
OS for Users: iOS, WP (you don't need knowledge to do everything the product is designed to)

It's like Windows (iOS) and Linux (Android)... well Android uses a crap javavirstualmachine (customized) who steals almost 50% of the system resources when Linux uses a pretty fast C/C++ code.

 

 



Gamerace on 19 September 2012
UncleScrooge said:
I don't like getting into these discussions because people on both sides (see this thread!) act pretty silly - the differences between those things in terms of how "advanced" they are are so small it doesn't even matter anymore. Just some thoughts:

1) The huge screens on Android Phones right now are overshooting the market. There are clear signs this is indeed true. What this means is if you put 2 identical phones next to each other, one with a 4.2" screen and the other with a 4.8" screen the smaller phone is the superior (!) one. Same happened to phones 10 years ago - but back then phones got ever smaller up to a point that you'd pick the bigger phone over the smaller one for ease of use. You can argue this but I strongly encourage you to read Christensen and try to get your head around it. Otherwise you will never understand why something you don't like resonates well with the market.

2) The CPU in the iPhone 5 appears to be faster than the Galaxy S3 one but frankly it doesn't matter at all. There is a reason Apple showed of a GAME on a SMARTPHONE on stage to demonstrate the CPU - there is not much room for improved performance other than games. Current CPU's are fast enough and in the future they'll just make phones more expensive even though people won't need them. Android is more resource hungry than iOS but at this point both systems run fluid with current CPU's. From here on it's overshooting again.

3) If we keep the two points above in mind we realize Apple will have a hard time to keep its current position in the market. Android can both reach high-end and low-end customers because there is a huge range of different devices, screen sizes, prices, etc. Apple on the other hand only has one new iPhone model per year. This is why they went with a 4" screen and not another 3.5" or a 4.5" one - they have to satisfy both ends, a task that will get increasingly difficult for them to achieve in the future. To beat Apple, Samsung (and others) should stop to focus on specs with their high-end machines because they are already overshooting the market in some regards. This is not going to help them beat Apple but make it harder. Instead they should focus on the customer experience more - iPhone still leads the customer satisfaction charts (and that's not because people are "sheep").

4) Apple's taking their "closed system" approach to a whole new level right now (see iPhone, iPad, Retina Macbook) and it is getting to a point where the customers are starting to suffer. Long-term this could hurt Apple harshly because customer satisfaction is the center of their success.

And to wrap it all up: If you think either company is acting great right now while the other one is bad you should take a deep breath and think for a minute. Samsung has become an Apple hate machine right now, focusing too much on useless stuff and overshooting the market while Apple is acting so arrogant you just want to throw up. In the end it is the CUSTOMERS on both sides who are the losers.

But hey, that's just me...

Well stated.

 

Apple has shown a lack of real innovation without Jobs.  This is what is allowing Samsung to challenge them and will eventually allow someone to surpass them.