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Player1x3 on 12 August 2012
Snesboy said:
Hynad said:
Snesboy said:
Solid-Stark said:
I can understand the framerate, but the resolution is disappointing.

The game is there. The content is there. If you don't want to play it because it won't have Ultra grafixxz, then you made your choice to miss out. A prime example of PC elitists.

When I install Doom 3 and there is no widescreen, no big deal, the game came out a decade ago. When I buy a game in 2012 and it doesn't have widescreen support, why the fuck would I buy it?

Because... the game is fun?

Hard games are not fun. I'm not a 14 year old with nothing better to do anymore. I actually have shit to take care of. When I want to relax, I don't want to have my ass handed to me by some broken videogame.


Broken because you would suck at it?



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SvennoJ on 12 August 2012
Snesboy said:
Hynad said:
Snesboy said:
Solid-Stark said:
I can understand the framerate, but the resolution is disappointing.

The game is there. The content is there. If you don't want to play it because it won't have Ultra grafixxz, then you made your choice to miss out. A prime example of PC elitists.

When I install Doom 3 and there is no widescreen, no big deal, the game came out a decade ago. When I buy a game in 2012 and it doesn't have widescreen support, why the fuck would I buy it?

Because... the game is fun?

Hard games are not fun. I'm not a 14 year old with nothing better to do anymore. I actually have shit to take care of. When I want to relax, I don't want to have my ass handed to me by some broken videogame.

That's what I though before I bought it. With 2 kids to take care of, how could this be relaxing. Now it is my favorite game of 2011. The difficulty is there for a reason, to slow you down, so you learn the unique level layout and all the shortcuts. If you play the game just to prove yourself and finish it asap then you will get frustrated. If you like exploring and getting lost in one of the most well crafted, unique and absorbing video game worlds in recent times then don't give this a miss.
This is not a game to finish with one character rushing through identikit dungeon after dungeon. After I got the hang of it I started a new character and what previously took days I could now do in hours.
I played this through 3 times and a bit with the new game+ option. I spend the same amount of time on Skyrim, but that game bored me to death by the end I had to force myself to finish the main story line.

Anyway it still sucks the PC version doesn't get native 1080p. I guess they did some ugly stuff with their effects buffers that they have to resort to upscaling instead.



Solid-Stark on 12 August 2012
Khuutra said:
Solid-Stark said:
Khuutra said:
Solid-Stark said:
I can understand the framerate, but the resolution is disappointing.

The game is there. The content is there. If you don't want to play it because it won't have Ultra grafixxz, then you made your choice to miss out. A prime example of PC elitists.

I expect a certain level of craftsmanship in the games that I'm presented; when those expectations are not met, I do not make a purchase.

This is not a statement about the principle of PC development. It is not about sending a message.

It's that what they did is not good enough to justify my money when I could be playing something else.

That is exactly my point. The game and content is there, it's not broken. Whatever the reason, you made your choice.

There is nothing "elitist" in that decision.

Okay.



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Gaming on: PS4 Pro, Switch, SNES Mini, Wii U, PC (i5-7400, GTX 1060)

SnesTea on 12 August 2012
Player1x3 said:
Snesboy said:
Hynad said:
Snesboy said:
Solid-Stark said:
I can understand the framerate, but the resolution is disappointing.

The game is there. The content is there. If you don't want to play it because it won't have Ultra grafixxz, then you made your choice to miss out. A prime example of PC elitists.

When I install Doom 3 and there is no widescreen, no big deal, the game came out a decade ago. When I buy a game in 2012 and it doesn't have widescreen support, why the fuck would I buy it?

Because... the game is fun?

Hard games are not fun. I'm not a 14 year old with nothing better to do anymore. I actually have shit to take care of. When I want to relax, I don't want to have my ass handed to me by some broken videogame.


Broken because you would suck at it?

Cheap AI is still cheap AI.



Player1x3 on 12 August 2012
Snesboy said:
Player1x3 said:
Snesboy said:
Hynad said:
Snesboy said:
Solid-Stark said:
I can understand the framerate, but the resolution is disappointing.

The game is there. The content is there. If you don't want to play it because it won't have Ultra grafixxz, then you made your choice to miss out. A prime example of PC elitists.

When I install Doom 3 and there is no widescreen, no big deal, the game came out a decade ago. When I buy a game in 2012 and it doesn't have widescreen support, why the fuck would I buy it?

Because... the game is fun?

Hard games are not fun. I'm not a 14 year old with nothing better to do anymore. I actually have shit to take care of. When I want to relax, I don't want to have my ass handed to me by some broken videogame.


Broken because you would suck at it?

Cheap AI is still cheap AI.

How is AI cheap?



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Hynad on 12 August 2012
Player1x3 said:
Snesboy said:
Player1x3 said:
Snesboy said:
Hynad said:
Snesboy said:
Solid-Stark said:
I can understand the framerate, but the resolution is disappointing.

The game is there. The content is there. If you don't want to play it because it won't have Ultra grafixxz, then you made your choice to miss out. A prime example of PC elitists.

When I install Doom 3 and there is no widescreen, no big deal, the game came out a decade ago. When I buy a game in 2012 and it doesn't have widescreen support, why the fuck would I buy it?

Because... the game is fun?

Hard games are not fun. I'm not a 14 year old with nothing better to do anymore. I actually have shit to take care of. When I want to relax, I don't want to have my ass handed to me by some broken videogame.


Broken because you would suck at it?

Cheap AI is still cheap AI.

How is AI cheap?

It's not. He's just looking for excuses to not admit that he's not good at the game.



shakarak on 12 August 2012
Snesboy said:
Hynad said:
Snesboy said:
Solid-Stark said:
I can understand the framerate, but the resolution is disappointing.

The game is there. The content is there. If you don't want to play it because it won't have Ultra grafixxz, then you made your choice to miss out. A prime example of PC elitists.

When I install Doom 3 and there is no widescreen, no big deal, the game came out a decade ago. When I buy a game in 2012 and it doesn't have widescreen support, why the fuck would I buy it?

Because... the game is fun?

Hard games are not fun. I'm not a 14 year old with nothing better to do anymore. I actually have shit to take care of. When I want to relax, I don't want to have my ass handed to me by some broken videogame.


You dislike hard games?!  That's crazy I normally crank up the difficulty on a game beacuse I enjoy the level of satisfaction I get after beating a harder game.   I noticed you own Fire Emblem for the Wii.  That game was very difficult, were you a fan?



Khuutra on 12 August 2012
KylieDog said:
Khuutra said:
leatherhat said:
We'll fix it quick enough.

Granted.

This is still tremendously, tremendously stupid, and the fact that we need to fix it for the developers is staggering.

Why?  Same things happen with every Elder Scroll game, loads of bugs and broken parts of the game left to community to work on and fix, fans think this is 'great'.

I want to point out

Very carefully

That I can run Skyrim in 1080p, and even with the Bethesda Problem it still provides a generally satisfactory experience, where Bethesda tries to fix the majority of the problems they inevitably leave us with. Dark Souls is not going to do that for us, and it's going to burn out my eyes in the bargain.



Player1x3 on 12 August 2012
Khuutra said:
KylieDog said:
Khuutra said:
leatherhat said:
We'll fix it quick enough.

Granted.

This is still tremendously, tremendously stupid, and the fact that we need to fix it for the developers is staggering.

Why?  Same things happen with every Elder Scroll game, loads of bugs and broken parts of the game left to community to work on and fix, fans think this is 'great'.

I want to point out

Very carefully

That I can run Skyrim in 1080p, and even with the Bethesda Problem it still provides a generally satisfactory experience, where Bethesda tries to fix the majority of the problems they inevitably leave us with. Dark Souls is not going to do that for us, and it's going to burn out my eyes in the bargain.


So a game can freeze, be filled with tons of bugs, glitches and problems but as long as you can run it in 1080p, its awwright?



Khuutra on 12 August 2012
Player1x3 said:
Khuutra said:

I want to point out

Very carefully

That I can run Skyrim in 1080p, and even with the Bethesda Problem it still provides a generally satisfactory experience, where Bethesda tries to fix the majority of the problems they inevitably leave us with. Dark Souls is not going to do that for us, and it's going to burn out my eyes in the bargain.

So a game can freeze, be filled with tons of bugs, glitches and problems but as long as you can run it in 1080p, its awwright?

You are being intentionally misleading based on what I said. Bethesda's games always have problems, and Bethesda always does their best to iron out what problems they can after release - yes, it should be ironed out beforehand, but their effort is worth something.

The amount of post-release support we're going to get on Dark Souls is going to be less robust, if it exists at all - it has been confirmed that the optimization issues and rendering problems will not be addressed.

I am not saying Skyrim's release state was acceptable. I am saying that Dark Souls is worse.