I was right! w00t!

http://www.winsupersite.com/blog/supersite-blog-39/windows8/microsoft-highlights-windows-rt-software-development-143426

Oh sweet. Thanks!

Do you know what time it is?

Why do you think this whole thing revolves around gaming. For most people, gaming will be the last thing on their minds when they buy it.

If you need device specific code, there is a place for it, but otherwise when you compile you can compile a project for multiple platforms.  So design a single app for mobile, Xbox 360, ARM tablets, x86/64 tablets, and PCs, add the device specific code necessary, and compile it across multiple devices.  You're done.

Everything but Windows 8 Desktop apps require some type of approval process.  Only Metro apps are available for RT that I know of.

Sorry Surface, you have a nice cover idea, but you are just too small for my needs. I prefer 13.3" screens for a laptop, minimum 12.1". My next laptop is going to be a tablet hybrid, and only the Asus Transformer Book fits my demands.

http://www.bestgamesnetwork.net/2012/06/microsoft-unveils-microsoft-surface.html

"The Surface will run PC games ... that's according to Eric Neustadter from Xbox Live Operations, who tweeted that the Surface tablet could run Civilization IV and V, and that it will be "the greatest Civilization-playing device known to mankind."

GET HYPED!!!!

Can emulate games log into live account? I think if  you want to run an emulated (assuming you know how to emulate games on your portable device) games like Baldur's gate, you need to shell out atleast $250 on a decent dual core phones. The new retina mac book pro? it is cool yes but is in it priced like $2000?  I would go with the surface if it sells for less than $600   I hope it can run Diablo 3 even on lthe lowest settings lol (maybe in 2 years?)

1. Yes, it is a second version to develope for, but that doesn't stop people from developing apps for the iPad. It's the same concept. Plus it just limits developers to the Metro side of Windows 8. So they will be able to make programs that run on full Windows and Windows RT with a few tweeks I bet. (though I could be totally wrong.)

2. Agreed, it is big, but there are a lot of people that have been hoping for a larger tablet. 10.6" will be a much better size for brousing the net. Though I do agree that there will be people turned off by the size. Personally, after my iPad1, I want for my next tablet to have a larger screen.

3. Yeah, flexible would be nice for the keyboard. I agree here.

4. I fully disagree. If you are going to include a kickstand, it needs to be able to fully support the devise. I bought a cover for my iPad with a smallish kick stand and it sucked when I tried to use the iPad on uneven surfaces, like on my tummy while laying in bed, on a pillow, on an airline tray table. I later got a cover with a much thicker longer and sturdier kickstand, which made these issues almost non-existent.

I also have an Evo 4G that has a nice kickstand, but it is only on one side of the device. It works great on perfectly flat surfaces, but on uneven surfaces the phone just tips over.

5. Agreed for me as well. I won't buy it until I know it will get good support. As it went with iOS and Android devices, apps will only come once people buy it. Plus, that is one of the reasons they are having the developer's conference this week.

Also - I realize you, like me, think this is a cool gadget. I just wanted to give my perspective.

Ah c'mon Mr Pig.

1. WindowsRT is WinPhone in tablet form. It will have the same support as winPhone and if Win8 integration can create a real want to own those phones (and I think it probably can) it will take off and become a real 3rd competitor in the smartphone ecosystem.

2. Its size is very much comparable to other 10" devices. I really doubt anyone will notice. Mostly its about weight anyways and these are really light as well. I have no reason to even consider that this size/weight will be an issue with the mass market.

3. The cover can roll back behind the tablet. Do you not see the multiple bends in the "spine" of the device?

4. That kickstand is fucking perfect. It is part of the device in a superburb fashion and gives great stability when in use. Its far better than the foldable cover that will wear out over time.

5. Apps... One model is a PC. It will run any windows8 peice of software. The other is the same as the windowsPhones. It has a decent library already and more than likely windows8 integration and an MS push will allow them to actually become a stable 3rd pillar in the smartphone world.

But I do agree... they are out-appling apple. Hell, they leap frogged all of Androids OEMs too... with the one exception of Asus.

I understand that it's a tablet version of Windows, I just wish there was a way around the issue of mobile vs. full applications. I know there isn't a good solution, just lamenting that it's a problem on a device with a "Windows" label. Everyone has the problem, MS is certainly not unique here.

I know the size isn't that much different but it's a creeping problem. The bigger these devices get, the less mobile they become. Surface is nearly an inch larger than iPad and is creeping too close to laptop sizes IMO. I want a tablet to be small-ish and easy to carry. The bigger they get, the harder they are to slip into a small bag (and my bags keep getting smaller as I buy smaller devices).

The touch cover doesn't look like it can roll underneath the kickstand, meaning you have to remove the keyboard to use the kickstand if you're working in a confined space and don't need the keyboard. That's hardly an optimal solution. Blending the touch cover and the iPad smart cover would be a perfect solution (if it's possible to do).

We'll have to disagree on the kickstand. I'd rather have one that is smaller and is able to work with the touch cover without having to remove it.

The app problem will be resolved in time. Microsoft is too good at dealing with developers for it not to get solid support in the coming years. But before I plunk down a bunch of money for one of these devices, I'm going to need to see that support start happening sooner rather than later. MS is already two years behind Apple (six if you count iPhone apps) and they need to kick it into overdrive to catch up.