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superchunk said:

Ah c'mon Mr Pig.

1. WindowsRT is WinPhone in tablet form. It will have the same support as winPhone and if Win8 integration can create a real want to own those phones (and I think it probably can) it will take off and become a real 3rd competitor in the smartphone ecosystem.

2. Its size is very much comparable to other 10" devices. I really doubt anyone will notice. Mostly its about weight anyways and these are really light as well. I have no reason to even consider that this size/weight will be an issue with the mass market.

3. The cover can roll back behind the tablet. Do you not see the multiple bends in the "spine" of the device?

4. That kickstand is fucking perfect. It is part of the device in a superburb fashion and gives great stability when in use. Its far better than the foldable cover that will wear out over time.

5. Apps... One model is a PC. It will run any windows8 peice of software. The other is the same as the windowsPhones. It has a decent library already and more than likely windows8 integration and an MS push will allow them to actually become a stable 3rd pillar in the smartphone world.

But I do agree... they are out-appling apple. Hell, they leap frogged all of Androids OEMs too... with the one exception of Asus.

I understand that it's a tablet version of Windows, I just wish there was a way around the issue of mobile vs. full applications. I know there isn't a good solution, just lamenting that it's a problem on a device with a "Windows" label. Everyone has the problem, MS is certainly not unique here.

I know the size isn't that much different but it's a creeping problem. The bigger these devices get, the less mobile they become. Surface is nearly an inch larger than iPad and is creeping too close to laptop sizes IMO. I want a tablet to be small-ish and easy to carry. The bigger they get, the harder they are to slip into a small bag (and my bags keep getting smaller as I buy smaller devices).

The touch cover doesn't look like it can roll underneath the kickstand, meaning you have to remove the keyboard to use the kickstand if you're working in a confined space and don't need the keyboard. That's hardly an optimal solution. Blending the touch cover and the iPad smart cover would be a perfect solution (if it's possible to do).

We'll have to disagree on the kickstand. I'd rather have one that is smaller and is able to work with the touch cover without having to remove it.

The app problem will be resolved in time. Microsoft is too good at dealing with developers for it not to get solid support in the coming years. But before I plunk down a bunch of money for one of these devices, I'm going to need to see that support start happening sooner rather than later. MS is already two years behind Apple (six if you count iPhone apps) and they need to kick it into overdrive to catch up.




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