Barozi said: Turkish said: Kantor said: Turkish said: I think I have disappointed many for not getting banned throughout the E3. And with more then 50 comments I made in the Microsoft E3 conference thread, not even 1 was marked as trolling. I made a thread about Star Wars Kinect metacritic scores since I was surprised it was so low, I got banned for trolling. I know if I formulated my thread title different like "we need to talk about SW kinect scores" I would not have been banned. You don't disappoint anybody for not being banned. We don't enjoy moderating people. We do it because it's necessary. Your thread title had little to do with the moderation. It was more your ridiculous claim that it was hyped up to be a great game, and your assertion that Kinect would only be used for dancing games in the future. Believe it or not, SW Kinect was one of the biggest games shown last year. It was put as the hardcore game to push Kinect for core gamers. Yes by Microsoft, but the vast majority of VGC users (including the 360 and Kinect owners) said that the game is going to fail reception-wise. You can go and look up the 2011 E3 thread or any other thread about it. However it is indeed one of the biggest Kinect games sales-wise.

Prime example, you banned this guy a few days ago, for EXACTLY the same rubbish he normally talks. Complete bias to Sony, total FUD peddling nasty good for nothing. Sorry but that is the truth (ban coming my way I assume for being honest and saying what everyone thinks?).

 

That's the whole problem, you tolerate this guy, just because there's for the most part no profanity but ANYONE with a brain can see this guy is rotten to the core and adds literally nothing at all to any debate whatsoever except ridiculous Sony fan service.

 

You guys don't seem to realise, members like this actually put off new members sighing up here! You just give him the odd short ban and then he comes back and carries on. As said, it's not about being tougher or softer, it's about using the status of a mod for the good of everyone who actually wants to participate in a productive way.

Status Quo, but equally accross the board with every moderator applying the same set of guide-lines equally towards and (or) agaInst every member.

You need to be tougher on known trouble causers. Weed them out. Get rid of the baiters. Get rid of anyone thats going into threads with the purpose of getting a rise out of people.

Is an opinion okay? Sure. Is it okay when you put it across like a dick? No.

"Hey guys, I really dont like Sonys holiday lineup. Bunch of Nintendo ripoffs."

"Hey guys, anyone else notice Sonys lineup? Looks like theyre trying to take a slice of Nintendos pie. Thats... Thats not for me."

Content is key. One of those posts is unacceptable and one is okay, yet they're essentially saying the same thing. Posts like the former need a hard looking at. Is the poster well known for trying to rile people? Is it a one off?

Another thing you guys need to look at is sigs. There needs to be one rule that you all abide by. Get that size limit and enforce it. Theres been too many moderations for sig length on people, when others get ignored. One rule, one size.

Also. More moderators.

Looser. Down with the E-Police.

It's fine as is.

I don't really understand the moderation rules here to be honest, because I haven't seen any kind of consistency with them - I assume that's just because there's multiple moderators who use different amounts of discretion.

Example I'd use kind of links back to Carl2291's point about the way people say things just to get a rise out of people.

Kantor wrote "Do not create threads, posts or signatures just to bait a certain group of people".

That's fine, I get that - Using Turkish's example, that picture was just to get a reaction out of Xbox fans, so he got banned for it.

But something like this:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4619521

Which is a more subtle way of trolling, just gets locked and that's it? I mean, please tell me he at least got a warning for it because it's exactly the same premise as Turkish's ban.

But anyway, Kantor trolled too, I think he should ban himself! It's good because I'm more excited about Sly Cooper and LittleBigPlanet than I could ever be able FableKinect and Halo >=(

I'd like it to be stricter. There are a fair few people who keep trolling, being dicks and general arses, get short bans, and then come back and do it again.

This site is a lot less nice than it used to be, simply because there are more rude people who are deliberately rude and mean. That kind of behaviour sours the entire forum, because those people tend to start huge, long discussions, often derailing entire threads.

Kresnik said: I don't really understand the moderation rules here to be honest, because I haven't seen any kind of consistency with them - I assume that's just because there's multiple moderators who use different amounts of discretion. Example I'd use kind of links back to Carl2291's point about the way people say things just to get a rise out of people. Kantor wrote "Do not create threads, posts or signatures just to bait a certain group of people". That's fine, I get that - Using Turkish's example, that picture was just to get a reaction out of Xbox fans, so he got banned for it. But something like this: Which is a more subtle way of trolling, just gets locked and that's it? I mean, please tell me he at least got a warning for it because it's exactly the same premise as Turkish's ban. But anyway, Kantor trolled too, I think he should ban himself! It's good because I'm more excited about Sly Cooper and LittleBigPlanet than I could ever be able FableKinect and Halo >=(

I don't think that thread was bad. The OP was just saying that the PS3's holiday lineup was weak, but was just asking for some clarification. Also, the user didn't have a history of trolling, so he probably just received a warning.

OT: I don't think we should be banned for calling people trolls. If they have a history of trolling, then they are trolls. I only think one should get in trouble if they can't provide substantial evidence to prove their claims.

For the most part I like it how it is right now. Best balance I've seen since I first saw this site. However with that said I agree with Carl that you need to be stricter on known troublemakers.

Moderation behaviour
stricter	11	25.00%
status quo (current condition)	22	50.00%
looser	11	25.00%
Total:	44

Awesome results atm.