ATI X1950 "Xenos" is not even close to a 4770. At all. The Radeon HD 4700 series completely owns the X1000 series. The 4700 series is about 800% better at graphics rendering. It's not even a contest.

I predict that it likely has between 160 and 320 Stream processors and the processor is running at ~2Ghz. The reason why I believe this is because the games don't look that much better than anything we have already seen and some of the developer complaints gave me a few hints IMO about the capabilities of the system. If it was packing something in the order of 640 to 800 stream processors, even with wickedly reduced clocks it'd have wiped the floor with the current generation consoles like you'd wipe your arse with toilet paper.

The reason why I believe that the console is 2Ghz or thereabouts is that developers did complain somewhat about fitting some of their code and if the cores are more capable then the only other possibility is that they are clocked slower. It is also quite a good clock speed generally in terms of power efficiency, just look at Intel Laptop CPUs. Nintendos OS is also likely far less efficient than the Microsoft OS and the tools are also far less developed, I would look for some quite strong improvement in the following 24 months. In the end it should look around 2-3* better than the 360 games by virtue of the increased RAM and more modern architecture.

The Xbox 360 had the rough *equivalent* of 240 but with a different architectural design, FYI for comparison.

By specs 200-250% better.

R500 (XENOS): 240 shaders units, 16 textures units, 8 render units,  4 GPixel/s, 12 GTextel/s, 22.4 GB/s
RV740 (HD 4470): 640 shaders units, 32 textures units, 16 render units,  8 GPixel/s,  24 GTextel/s, 51.2 GB/s

But the XENOS have the eDRAM at 256GB/s with 192 parallel pixel processors + hardware optimized DirectX.

In real games the power of the HD 4770 is less then 200% bigger than XENOS (and the eDRAM further reduce the gap).

Oops. Guess my source was wrong D: Still. I hate Xbox 360 lol. But that's just fanboy bias.

yeah except i was really thinking serialisation a la manga..... meaning reallly cheap first chapter 30 bucks at most with multiplayer and the first 2 or 3 chapter of what would have been the full game then every X months you release more chapters for 10 to 20 bucks.... it would really ease the pressure on the dev company financially by spreading cost over time while getting income flows earlier.... on top of it once the first part is released a good chuck of the dev team can already start working on other projects.....

plus one of the big issue of dev comp.... is half of the staff is useless morons that slow down the elite teams dedicated to do something great.... plus small dev comp have no clue about finance and management it's like a bunch of  hippies in the 70's working out of garages...

and to go back on power.... the big difference between sony/ms and nintendo is that the 2 first are much more than just a console now.... and depending on what they plan on the multi media side.... but if they go the multi tasking way they'll need the extra ram.... and cpu power... ie for dual screen play or who knows you might be able to watch hd movie stream in one room play in the other while video chatting at the same time and dvring your fav show.. anyway on pure speculation i'm sure it will be more powerful than the wiiu just for that simple fact not even because of games requirement... but that's my opinion especially for MS which first intend with the xb is to follow their windows customer where they consume media now that the good old familly desktop in the office room is a thing of the past...

People who had played for example Batman say that it looks worse than Ps3 and Xbox game.Ok, it probably is only becuase the console is new, but I think that underline that WiiU is not too much powerful than the others, probably it's the same level.

It's not as bad as some think it is.

Drops to 30FPS, just as much as most PS3/360 games play at.

AMD??? eeewwww

Get use to it, for if rumors are correct all three console makers are going with AMD.