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Nintendo needs to improve the graphics and art before release?

Yes, ALOT! 88 27.24%
 
Yes, kinda 49 15.17%
 
it's fine as it is 90 27.86%
 
Graphics, who cares? 76 23.53%
 
Sales are what matter, bring NSMB! 20 6.19%
 
Total:323
oniyide said:
Soleron said:

Just shows they're putting no effort in. I expect recycled music (or else just ambience, not memorable Mario music of the past) and some recycled levels as well.

When they use a full live orchestra like for Mario and Zelda I'll know they've decided to take their highest selling game series seriously again.

I'll buy it because the classic Mario gameplay will no doubt be intact, but if this doesn't show up how little Miyamoto cares about his customers I don't know what could. It'll be funny when it outsells 3D Land, maybe that will show them what kind of game they need to invest the budget in?

Also Nintendo, I thought "surprising" the customer was the #1 priority at Nintendo now?


The funny thing is, it will have the OPPOSITE effect.  Why would they are any company go the extra mile to when they know it will sell like hot cakes anyway??? They wont, which is exactly what seems to be going on with this Mario game. I find it funny their are some who are complaning about lack of effort but are going to buy the damn game anyway. You are all part of the problem, if you are really dissatisfied then dont support them. As for investing, im pretty sure a fully 3d game is going to take more resources than a 2d one, sales dont matter.

OT, im going to get it cause A, its Mario and when had a 2d game from him ever really pushed visuals, B dat Racoon suit C its a portable game and my expectations for all games on handheld are usually lower.  I dont mind what they are doing, but if they pull this halfassed crap for Wii U then im gonna pass on that one or wait for a price

If that's true, then I am sick, just sick of the new Nintendo. Don't they realize that if they make a game good for us, it will also be enjoyable for casuals?

The only place where I can give them the benefit of the doubt is if in their eyes a less "gamer" game will be more attractive to casuals and non-gamers. They level-down the tone of the game to less serious and more bland so as to be more generic and attract a bigger market.

The idea makes me sick... and frustrated.



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Mario games aren't about graphics. It could be built on the SNES engines and it would still have more appeal and charm than 90% of products available today.



                            

I much prefer 3D action Mario games like Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario 3D Land. I'm a bit bored of side scrolling Mario games and don't see why they sell more than 3D Mario's.



@Carl

No matter the platform you make it on, as long as you make it to the best of the platform, you are ok in my book.

That's not what's happening here, and you can be sure that SMB, Mario 3, SMW and all the 3D Marios after that used all the hardware resources they needed to make a polished game.



Carl2291 said:
Mario games aren't about graphics. It could be built on the SNES engines and it would still have more appeal and charm than 90% of products available today.


Most new Mario games other than the first Mario Galaxy are void of any charm and are purely created to push units much like most other games today.

I'd play SMW and SMB3 over them any day of the week.



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I love the art style of the NSMB games. It really fits the way the games play. They're sober, relatively simplistic 2D games, yet still brilliantly fun. Thus, graphics that are sober and simplistic, but still look relatively nice, are quite fitting.

For other games, like Donkey Kong Country Returns, simplistic graphic would be completely off. It's more of a whacko and crazy 2D platformer, so more whacky graphics with more explosions and stuff happening fits the game a lot better.



oniyide said:
Soleron said:

Just shows they're putting no effort in. I expect recycled music (or else just ambience, not memorable Mario music of the past) and some recycled levels as well.

When they use a full live orchestra like for Mario and Zelda I'll know they've decided to take their highest selling game series seriously again.

I'll buy it because the classic Mario gameplay will no doubt be intact, but if this doesn't show up how little Miyamoto cares about his customers I don't know what could. It'll be funny when it outsells 3D Land, maybe that will show them what kind of game they need to invest the budget in?

Also Nintendo, I thought "surprising" the customer was the #1 priority at Nintendo now?


The funny thing is, it will have the OPPOSITE effect.  Why would they are any company go the extra mile to when they know it will sell like hot cakes anyway??? They wont, which is exactly what seems to be going on with this Mario game. I find it funny their are some who are complaning about lack of effort but are going to buy the damn game anyway. You are all part of the problem, if you are really dissatisfied then dont support them. As for investing, im pretty sure a fully 3d game is going to take more resources than a 2d one, sales dont matter.

OT, im going to get it cause A, its Mario and when had a 2d game from him ever really pushed visuals, B dat Racoon suit C its a portable game and my expectations for all games on handheld are usually lower.  I dont mind what they are doing, but if they pull this halfassed crap for Wii U then im gonna pass on that one or wait for a price

I am already not supporting them. I did not buy 3D Land and will not buy a Wii U. I am buying this because I would rather see infinite lackluster 2D Mario games than one more 3D Land. (Of course they should keep making 3D Mario but it should not get the flagship marketing budget).

I don't know what using 3D Land's budget on a 2D game would do to sales, and Nintendo doesn't know either, because they haven't tried the last 3 times. I suggest trying - a good enough Mario game will presumably sell 40m like SMB1, and Nintendo needs to experiment with all possibilities to get it there. They've tried 3D enough to know it won't.



There will be things that'll shock you when we see the game in motion. Two things that can be graphical features I noticed on the screenshots are the background in the pyramid level (looks 3Dish) and the sparks on the yellow turtles pic!

And if not, the imminent return of frog mario will win all hearts back and some more.





 

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