You keep going on about gross vs net and how COD is more profitable for Microsoft and 360 than Halo is.  I understand that yes, Halo costs Microsoft money to make whereas COD does not, but you're not realizing that Halo nets more money for Microsoft than COD does, as it is their in-house property, and also important to consider is that because Halo is exclusive to 360 only, people must buy that console in order to play it, meaning more money for Microsoft from other purchased software, Xbox LIVE, peripherals, etc... not to mention what it does for brand recognition.

Which brings me to your argument about exclusives not being important or as profitable as 3rd party games are to a console.  It's really a case by case situation depending on what console you're talking about, I suppose, but when saying this in the general sense I don't see how you expect people to take you seriously.  Wii exclusives such as Wii Sports Resort, Mario Kart, WiiFit and NSMB have equaled or surpassed sales of any title, even on mulitple platforms.  That's all profit for Nintendo and Nintendo alone because it's their exclusive property.  And again, exclusives greatly help in moving systems and creating financial success.

It was getting tiresome so I just did what zero told me to.

Bottom line. Even if it is gross profit or not, you should be able to tell when something makes tons of money or not. We're not talking about tiny amounts here and I don't care if the real profit is $100m lower than what I said or not, because it simply doesn't make any meaningful difference.

Durango can't use Blu-ray ? Another weird claim of yours. Of course it could.

In your free time look up the profits the 360 made over the years and then come back and apologize.

so many Sony fans seem insistant on shitting up 360 sales thread lately 0_o

Ok then, now that he's gone, we can finally all agree that the 360 is profitable, Halo is huge and this thread was pointless from the start.

Also Barozi you lied to me about not swinging that hammer enough, you've been on a roll man! :D

Oh and Seece, that's probably because they've been so happy over the weeks that PS3 was gaining big time on the 360, and now it might just be so that it was all a sham

Pathetic desperation, it's really quite sad.

You all saw it. I gave him several copportunities to show some facts and the only thing he brought up was Amazon. Poor baby seals.

This is a total ban fest. This is not a big deal and shouldn't really surprise anyone. WP7 is having traction issues that they are heavily looking to repair as announced recently. I can't say much for Zune but I'm sure that has been trounced by iTunes. Xbox is probably making this figure like better than it is because of it's profitability. The drop in Xbox sales is a clear sign Kinect's hardware boom is over and as the 360 is old now a new console release is needed. If Microsoft still holds back Xbox 3, then they desperatly need to have a price cut and add incentive to keep 360 numbers up as much as possible before they can get their new console out there. Things like their expansion in South America might help since it is relatively new there and expensive they could leverage some extra sales with a little TLC.

I don't like Xbox very much, but they are doing well and still have a lot of opportunities. I wish their Xbox division was posted separately, but I understand why they wouldn't want to make separate numbers so transparent.

Were you payed to say that? How can Sony fans shit up a thread about a loss?

This is when the PS3 takes second place.