but if i BUY the nextbox, i already spend my money on it... make internet mandatory is pushing the limits... i can go as far as to be on-line to register the software to the machine... but to be always on-line is unnecessary...

sorry for the off-topic... UK and Europe? were do you think UK is? UK is in europe and its not a different market... so no need to split them up!

According to the rumour you would have the equivilent of 4 PCs if you tape your two 720s together - that would be something.

Actually though - why would you buy two?  Different rooms or something?

I was more thinking mainland Europe vs UK and European Union vs UK.  In UK we never consider ourselves fully part of Europe!

Bad habit really but it is hugely common in UK to refer to Europe seperately.  Even in large global companies I will hear senior staff talk about having UK and European offices.

My point remains, if MS really went for always connected (which I'm seriously doubting) then unless global infrastructure changes a lot between now and late 2013 they will surely be in trouble in most non US / European countries.

There's no way it has a dual-GPU with 7000 series. That would price it out of competition.

Sorry, but this surely not correct... tho most of the rest can easily be speculated based on what we know already and in fact its all in my comparison thread.

Custom built dual-GPU on the same chip, why is that so hard to believe? One medium fast GPU and a second weaker support GPU.

A Radeon 7850 costs $250 and a 7750 only like $100, and AMD hasn't even responded to Nvidias new cards by dropping price yet. By November 2013 equivalents to these GPU's will be dirty cheap to make.

I know that if you respond to this post you will go all like "who says I was talking about you" kind of attitude, I don´t care that you made that statement when there was no reason do so, I do care that you labeled me (not just me) a Sony fan. I am nobody's fan, I like gaming that´s it.

As for the rumor, I don´t believe it, for the simple fact that just Kinect 2.0 on every box would be $200 alone, how in the world would they put 2 GPUs in there, a powerful 4-6 core CPU, with bluray player all in one machine. That machine would cost $600 minimum at launch, and with Kinect popularity phenom I see no reason for MS do so.

One thing is for sure, if they go the power hungry route, I am telling you, Sony is toast. They would need a gimmick to sell the PS Orbit (or completely change their software mindset), because the Uncharteds, God of wars and GTs would stop being graphic leaders, meaning they would have to add something to these games to sell as they do now.

In my mind if Sony is left in the middle power wise, they are screwed, for me I want diversity, I don´t want two similar consoles with different gimmicks to choose from.

I'd say that will annoy about 0.001% of console buyers.