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TeddostheFireKing on 15 December 2011

those are some pretty huge numbers for a such a small market, good to see move doing well :)

@leo-j: I presume your talking about software totals right?



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ProdigyBam on 15 December 2011

I personally dont trust the software numbers on this site, the more official numbers we get, the more it seems like the Vgchartz data are wild estimates that you and me can take also.
I think at least 80% of ps3 games are somewhat undertracked here, 95% of the time we get officiall numbers from sony, the official data is much higher, this site is only good for hardware sales (estimates), the software numbers here are a huge joke imo...



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NiKKoM on 15 December 2011
TeddostheFireKing said:
@leo-j: I presume your talking about software totals right?

It's leo-j... so probably not.. :P



 

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kitler53 on 15 December 2011

so you're trying to tell me over half of the Moves sold WW are in poland?..



Barozi on 15 December 2011
pezus said:

European Sports Champions sales: 721k
You're telling me that 1/7 of all of those have been sold in Poland alone? On~2% of the total PS3 European userbase.

Isn't that the point of the thread ? That the Move userbase and therefore Sports Champions owners in Poland are above the European average.
Otherwise it wouldn't be surprising at all.



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MARCUSDJACKSON on 15 December 2011

keep moving PS3's move!. Sorcery next yr. will move more moves and PS3's.



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ethomaz on 15 December 2011
kowenicki said:
leo-j said:
In case you guys haven't noticed, for the last couple of quarters the PS3 has been undertracked on vgchartz by a SIGNIFICANT amount, I'm talking millions each quarter at times.....

thats just lies.  but i expect that from you.

I think he is talking about software... therea are 60-70 million diff between VGC and Sony.



enrageorange on 15 December 2011
pezus said:
Barozi said:
pezus said:

European Sports Champions sales: 721k
You're telling me that 1/7 of all of those have been sold in Poland alone? On~2% of the total PS3 European userbase.

Isn't that the point of the thread ? That the Move userbase and therefore Sports Champions owners in Poland are above the European average.
Otherwise it wouldn't be surprising at all.

Yeah, but 14% of Sports Champions with 2% of the userbase is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy above average.

yes but clearly these sales are an anomaly. You can easily see that by noticing that in Poland the ps3 to move sales are 400k/200k while sony has shipped 55.3mil+ ps3s and only 8.3mil ps moves. In general only 1 ps3 move sells for 6.66 ps3,  while in Poland that ratio is 1 in 2...

400k ps3 sales out of 55.3mil(shipped) are in Poland or 0.7% yet 200k move sales out of 8.3mil(shipped) are in poland or 2.4%. Sports champion makes up 100k sales out of 2.84mil(vgchartz data) 3.5%. So poland makes up 0.7% of ps3 sales, 2.4% of move sales, and 3.5% of sports champion sales. The ps3 and ps3 move sales are fact because we are comparing them to sony shipped numbers. And so it is very possible sports champions makes up 3.5% of all sales considering how well ps3 move is doing in Poland and the fact that the game is the 3rd best selling ever in Poland while nowhere near that anywhere else. We know that for a fact as well because if it was the 3rd best selling game in every region it would have sold far more then sony has shipped move controllers... 



ethomaz on 15 December 2011
kowenicki said:
enrageorange said:
pezus said:
Barozi said:
pezus said:

European Sports Champions sales: 721k
You're telling me that 1/7 of all of those have been sold in Poland alone? On~2% of the total PS3 European userbase.

Isn't that the point of the thread ? That the Move userbase and therefore Sports Champions owners in Poland are above the European average.
Otherwise it wouldn't be surprising at all.

Yeah, but 14% of Sports Champions with 2% of the userbase is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy above average.

yes but clearly these sales are an anomaly. You can easily see that by noticing that in Poland the ps3 to move sales are 400k/200k while sony has shipped 55.3mil+ ps3s and only 8.3mil ps moves. In general only 1 ps3 move sells for 6.66 ps3,  while in Poland that ratio is 1 in 2...

400k ps3 sales out of 55.3mil(shipped) are in Poland or 0.7% yet 200k move sales out of 8.3mil(shipped) are in poland or 2.4%. Sports champion makes up 100k sales out of 2.84mil(vgchartz data) 3.5%. So poland makes up 0.7% of ps3 sales, 2.4% of move sales, and 3.5% of sports champion sales. The ps3 and ps3 move sales are fact because we are comparing them to sony shipped numbers. And so it is very possible sports champions makes up 3.5% of all sales considering how well ps3 move is doing in Poland and the fact that the game is the 3rd best selling ever in Poland while nowhere near that anywhere else. We know that for a fact as well because if it was the 3rd best selling game in every region it would have sold far more then sony has shipped move controllers...

which makes me believe some of these numbers are just wrong.  why would poland be so out of line... 1 in 6 globally is 1 in 2 in poland?  nah.

The 8.3 million sales for Move is March figures... at E3 the new shipped figure was 8.8 million... after that no new figure.

How many Sony shipped after June???



Zlejedi on 15 December 2011
kowenicki said:
enrageorange said:
pezus said:
Barozi said:
pezus said:

European Sports Champions sales: 721k
You're telling me that 1/7 of all of those have been sold in Poland alone? On~2% of the total PS3 European userbase.

Isn't that the point of the thread ? That the Move userbase and therefore Sports Champions owners in Poland are above the European average.
Otherwise it wouldn't be surprising at all.

Yeah, but 14% of Sports Champions with 2% of the userbase is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy above average.

yes but clearly these sales are an anomaly. You can easily see that by noticing that in Poland the ps3 to move sales are 400k/200k while sony has shipped 55.3mil+ ps3s and only 8.3mil ps moves. In general only 1 ps3 move sells for 6.66 ps3,  while in Poland that ratio is 1 in 2...

400k ps3 sales out of 55.3mil(shipped) are in Poland or 0.7% yet 200k move sales out of 8.3mil(shipped) are in poland or 2.4%. Sports champion makes up 100k sales out of 2.84mil(vgchartz data) 3.5%. So poland makes up 0.7% of ps3 sales, 2.4% of move sales, and 3.5% of sports champion sales. The ps3 and ps3 move sales are fact because we are comparing them to sony shipped numbers. And so it is very possible sports champions makes up 3.5% of all sales considering how well ps3 move is doing in Poland and the fact that the game is the 3rd best selling ever in Poland while nowhere near that anywhere else. We know that for a fact as well because if it was the 3rd best selling game in every region it would have sold far more then sony has shipped move controllers... 

which makes me believe some of these numbers are just wrong.  why would poland be so out of line... 1 in 6 globally is 1 in 2 in poland?  nah.

Honestly I got no idea - we are specific market since Nintendo doesn't exist here to the point where PSP had 95% of handheld market share ;) )  But i think 720k is a bit too low.



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