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leo-j said:
In case you guys haven't noticed, for the last couple of quarters the PS3 has been undertracked on vgchartz by a SIGNIFICANT amount, I'm talking millions each quarter at times.....

thats just lies.  but i expect that from you.



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kowenicki said:
leo-j said:
In case you guys haven't noticed, for the last couple of quarters the PS3 has been undertracked on vgchartz by a SIGNIFICANT amount, I'm talking millions each quarter at times.....

thats just lies.  but i expect that from you.

I think he is talking about software... therea are 60-70 million diff between VGC and Sony.



ethomaz said:
kowenicki said:
leo-j said:
In case you guys haven't noticed, for the last couple of quarters the PS3 has been undertracked on vgchartz by a SIGNIFICANT amount, I'm talking millions each quarter at times.....

thats just lies.  but i expect that from you.

I think he is talking about software... therea are 60-70 million diff between VGC and Sony.

No, he is talking about the PS3.     This is a thread about hardware, he mentions only hardware and hey... its leo.

Software tracking involves more estimation, I'm sure its the same for all software except for Nintendo (they provide more info). MS dont even release figures so for all we know its just as bad or worse there.



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Barozi said:
pezus said:

European Sports Champions sales: 721k
You're telling me that 1/7 of all of those have been sold in Poland alone? On~2% of the total PS3 European userbase.

Isn't that the point of the thread ? That the Move userbase and therefore Sports Champions owners in Poland are above the European average.
Otherwise it wouldn't be surprising at all.

Yeah, but 14% of Sports Champions with 2% of the userbase is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy above average.



pezus said:
Barozi said:
pezus said:

European Sports Champions sales: 721k
You're telling me that 1/7 of all of those have been sold in Poland alone? On~2% of the total PS3 European userbase.

Isn't that the point of the thread ? That the Move userbase and therefore Sports Champions owners in Poland are above the European average.
Otherwise it wouldn't be surprising at all.

Yeah, but 14% of Sports Champions with 2% of the userbase is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy above average.

yes but clearly these sales are an anomaly. You can easily see that by noticing that in Poland the ps3 to move sales are 400k/200k while sony has shipped 55.3mil+ ps3s and only 8.3mil ps moves. In general only 1 ps3 move sells for 6.66 ps3,  while in Poland that ratio is 1 in 2...

400k ps3 sales out of 55.3mil(shipped) are in Poland or 0.7% yet 200k move sales out of 8.3mil(shipped) are in poland or 2.4%. Sports champion makes up 100k sales out of 2.84mil(vgchartz data) 3.5%. So poland makes up 0.7% of ps3 sales, 2.4% of move sales, and 3.5% of sports champion sales. The ps3 and ps3 move sales are fact because we are comparing them to sony shipped numbers. And so it is very possible sports champions makes up 3.5% of all sales considering how well ps3 move is doing in Poland and the fact that the game is the 3rd best selling ever in Poland while nowhere near that anywhere else. We know that for a fact as well because if it was the 3rd best selling game in every region it would have sold far more then sony has shipped move controllers... 



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enrageorange said:
pezus said:
Barozi said:
pezus said:

European Sports Champions sales: 721k
You're telling me that 1/7 of all of those have been sold in Poland alone? On~2% of the total PS3 European userbase.

Isn't that the point of the thread ? That the Move userbase and therefore Sports Champions owners in Poland are above the European average.
Otherwise it wouldn't be surprising at all.

Yeah, but 14% of Sports Champions with 2% of the userbase is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy above average.

yes but clearly these sales are an anomaly. You can easily see that by noticing that in Poland the ps3 to move sales are 400k/200k while sony has shipped 55.3mil+ ps3s and only 8.3mil ps moves. In general only 1 ps3 move sells for 6.66 ps3,  while in Poland that ratio is 1 in 2...

400k ps3 sales out of 55.3mil(shipped) are in Poland or 0.7% yet 200k move sales out of 8.3mil(shipped) are in poland or 2.4%. Sports champion makes up 100k sales out of 2.84mil(vgchartz data) 3.5%. So poland makes up 0.7% of ps3 sales, 2.4% of move sales, and 3.5% of sports champion sales. The ps3 and ps3 move sales are fact because we are comparing them to sony shipped numbers. And so it is very possible sports champions makes up 3.5% of all sales considering how well ps3 move is doing in Poland and the fact that the game is the 3rd best selling ever in Poland while nowhere near that anywhere else. We know that for a fact as well because if it was the 3rd best selling game in every region it would have sold far more then sony has shipped move controllers... 

which makes me believe some of these numbers are just wrong.  why would poland be so out of line... 1 in 6 globally is 1 in 2 in poland?  nah.



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kowenicki said:
enrageorange said:
pezus said:
Barozi said:
pezus said:

European Sports Champions sales: 721k
You're telling me that 1/7 of all of those have been sold in Poland alone? On~2% of the total PS3 European userbase.

Isn't that the point of the thread ? That the Move userbase and therefore Sports Champions owners in Poland are above the European average.
Otherwise it wouldn't be surprising at all.

Yeah, but 14% of Sports Champions with 2% of the userbase is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy above average.

yes but clearly these sales are an anomaly. You can easily see that by noticing that in Poland the ps3 to move sales are 400k/200k while sony has shipped 55.3mil+ ps3s and only 8.3mil ps moves. In general only 1 ps3 move sells for 6.66 ps3,  while in Poland that ratio is 1 in 2...

400k ps3 sales out of 55.3mil(shipped) are in Poland or 0.7% yet 200k move sales out of 8.3mil(shipped) are in poland or 2.4%. Sports champion makes up 100k sales out of 2.84mil(vgchartz data) 3.5%. So poland makes up 0.7% of ps3 sales, 2.4% of move sales, and 3.5% of sports champion sales. The ps3 and ps3 move sales are fact because we are comparing them to sony shipped numbers. And so it is very possible sports champions makes up 3.5% of all sales considering how well ps3 move is doing in Poland and the fact that the game is the 3rd best selling ever in Poland while nowhere near that anywhere else. We know that for a fact as well because if it was the 3rd best selling game in every region it would have sold far more then sony has shipped move controllers...

which makes me believe some of these numbers are just wrong.  why would poland be so out of line... 1 in 6 globally is 1 in 2 in poland?  nah.

The 8.3 million sales for Move is March figures... at E3 the new shipped figure was 8.8 million... after that no new figure.

How many Sony shipped after June???



ethomaz said:
kowenicki said:
enrageorange said:
pezus said:
Barozi said:
pezus said:

European Sports Champions sales: 721k
You're telling me that 1/7 of all of those have been sold in Poland alone? On~2% of the total PS3 European userbase.

Isn't that the point of the thread ? That the Move userbase and therefore Sports Champions owners in Poland are above the European average.
Otherwise it wouldn't be surprising at all.

Yeah, but 14% of Sports Champions with 2% of the userbase is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy above average.

yes but clearly these sales are an anomaly. You can easily see that by noticing that in Poland the ps3 to move sales are 400k/200k while sony has shipped 55.3mil+ ps3s and only 8.3mil ps moves. In general only 1 ps3 move sells for 6.66 ps3,  while in Poland that ratio is 1 in 2...

400k ps3 sales out of 55.3mil(shipped) are in Poland or 0.7% yet 200k move sales out of 8.3mil(shipped) are in poland or 2.4%. Sports champion makes up 100k sales out of 2.84mil(vgchartz data) 3.5%. So poland makes up 0.7% of ps3 sales, 2.4% of move sales, and 3.5% of sports champion sales. The ps3 and ps3 move sales are fact because we are comparing them to sony shipped numbers. And so it is very possible sports champions makes up 3.5% of all sales considering how well ps3 move is doing in Poland and the fact that the game is the 3rd best selling ever in Poland while nowhere near that anywhere else. We know that for a fact as well because if it was the 3rd best selling game in every region it would have sold far more then sony has shipped move controllers...

which makes me believe some of these numbers are just wrong.  why would poland be so out of line... 1 in 6 globally is 1 in 2 in poland?  nah.

The 8.3 million sales for Move is March figures... at E3 the new shipped figure was 8.8 million... after that no new figure.

How many Sony shipped after June???

simple maths tells me that whatever it is it wont alter the ratio very much, if at all.



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kowenicki said:
enrageorange said:
pezus said:
Barozi said:
pezus said:

European Sports Champions sales: 721k
You're telling me that 1/7 of all of those have been sold in Poland alone? On~2% of the total PS3 European userbase.

Isn't that the point of the thread ? That the Move userbase and therefore Sports Champions owners in Poland are above the European average.
Otherwise it wouldn't be surprising at all.

Yeah, but 14% of Sports Champions with 2% of the userbase is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy above average.

yes but clearly these sales are an anomaly. You can easily see that by noticing that in Poland the ps3 to move sales are 400k/200k while sony has shipped 55.3mil+ ps3s and only 8.3mil ps moves. In general only 1 ps3 move sells for 6.66 ps3,  while in Poland that ratio is 1 in 2...

400k ps3 sales out of 55.3mil(shipped) are in Poland or 0.7% yet 200k move sales out of 8.3mil(shipped) are in poland or 2.4%. Sports champion makes up 100k sales out of 2.84mil(vgchartz data) 3.5%. So poland makes up 0.7% of ps3 sales, 2.4% of move sales, and 3.5% of sports champion sales. The ps3 and ps3 move sales are fact because we are comparing them to sony shipped numbers. And so it is very possible sports champions makes up 3.5% of all sales considering how well ps3 move is doing in Poland and the fact that the game is the 3rd best selling ever in Poland while nowhere near that anywhere else. We know that for a fact as well because if it was the 3rd best selling game in every region it would have sold far more then sony has shipped move controllers... 

which makes me believe some of these numbers are just wrong.  why would poland be so out of line... 1 in 6 globally is 1 in 2 in poland?  nah.

Honestly I got no idea - we are specific market since Nintendo doesn't exist here to the point where PSP had 95% of handheld market share ;) )  But i think 720k is a bit too low.



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ethomaz said:
Munkeh111 said:
ethomaz said:
Munkeh111 said:
Why are they buying the move! There aren't any games for it as Sorcery still isn't out... (but at least it will be coming soon)

But nice to see the PS3 doing well, they should be buying Uncharted 3 instead though

What???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_Move_games

Well there are many, they just aren't very good, my Move is just sitting there

I have not tried every game in the list... but Killzone 3 is better with Move... LittleBigPlanet 2 is funny too... Heavy Rain was made to play with Move... Echochrome II Move did here again.

Some games are better with Move.

I tried playing Killzone 3 with Move, but I found it too tireing.... probably because i play on a 100" screen, so actually aiming involved quite a lot of movement