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oniyide said:
lurkerwithnosoul said:
I pretty much agree with Kowenicki. You guys just say that because this gen, you can't have it. But unless you are the non-talkative kind, or just play single-player games, you will find that CGC is a much needed feature.


im a non-talker, but could you explain to me why i need to be able to talk to someone who is not even playing the game im playing??? Cause my friends who have 360 dont even use the feature and think its useless too.

 

Why wouldn't you? Isn't nice to be able to talk with a group of friends while playing any video-game? You have always the option to restrict the number of players in the party, or even mute the person you don't want to hear.



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lurkerwithnosoul said:
oniyide said:
lurkerwithnosoul said:
I pretty much agree with Kowenicki. You guys just say that because this gen, you can't have it. But unless you are the non-talkative kind, or just play single-player games, you will find that CGC is a much needed feature.


im a non-talker, but could you explain to me why i need to be able to talk to someone who is not even playing the game im playing??? Cause my friends who have 360 dont even use the feature and think its useless too.

 

Why wouldn't you? Isn't nice to be able to talk with a group of friends while playing any video-game? You have always the option to restrict the number of players in the party, or even mute the person you don't want to hear.

Hi, I'm the non-talkative type who just plays single player games. With that said, when play MP games, I always keep my mic cut and everyone else muted. Even when I played MagBeta and Uncharted 2MP, I didn't like chatting unless it was unavoidablly necessary.

Why the need to talk to people? Especially those who aren't playing the same game as you? I can understand wanting to talk to someone playing the same game as you e.g in co-op or just "banter" in versus but talking to some guy playing portal whilst you are playing COD is beyond me, becuase if I were playing a game with story or heck, a single player game like Pro Evo, I wouldn't want some random talking nonsense to me because I want to focus on my game at hand.



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Ajescent said:
lurkerwithnosoul said:
oniyide said:
lurkerwithnosoul said:
I pretty much agree with Kowenicki. You guys just say that because this gen, you can't have it. But unless you are the non-talkative kind, or just play single-player games, you will find that CGC is a much needed feature.


im a non-talker, but could you explain to me why i need to be able to talk to someone who is not even playing the game im playing??? Cause my friends who have 360 dont even use the feature and think its useless too.

 

Why wouldn't you? Isn't nice to be able to talk with a group of friends while playing any video-game? You have always the option to restrict the number of players in the party, or even mute the person you don't want to hear.

Hi, I'm the non-talkative type who just plays single player games. With that said, when play MP games, I always keep my mic cut and everyone else muted. Even when I played MagBeta and Uncharted 2MP, I didn't like chatting unless it was unavoidablly necessary.

Why the need to talk to people? Especially those who aren't playing the same game as you? I can understand wanting to talk to someone playing the same game as you e.g in co-op or just "banter" in versus but talking to some guy playing portal whilst you are playing COD is beyond me, becuase if I were playing a game with story or heck, a single player game like Pro Evo, I wouldn't want some random talking nonsense to me because I want to focus on my game at hand.

I guess I'm just a better multitasker than you lol jk. I understand not wanting to talk to someone playing a engaging story or watching a movie, but in multiplayer(which I mainly do) or If I'm sitting at the dashboard waiting for something to download, I like to talk to people. When I played Portal 2 I was able to keep conversation at the same time concentrating on the game, no problem. Some friends join a party and they want to know about the game I'm playing like I was doing in Portal. I guess I'm just use to talking to people while playing a game because I do it a lot now.

I would understand for someone that mainly plays single player games or has never used the feature very much might not care for it, but I have done it so much now it doesn't distract me when playing a game. For the most part, when I'm in a party with someone we usually talk about gaming not just out of the blue stuff. I know talking to you, your not the general audience, but I'm sure most PS3 owners would love to have this feature on PSN.     

 



smroadkill15 said:


I understand not wanting to talk to someone when your playing a deep engaging single player, but multiplayer is completely different. When I'm with a friend(s) playing Halo or COD I want to talk to my teammates because it's a very teamwork oriented games, so communication is key. If there is an annoying kid, I can get with my other 3-4 friends I'm playing with and start a party chat to avoid such people. I guess I'm just used to talking to people when I play games so it doesn't bother me.   

You don't own a PS3...

And everything you just said is possible on the PS3, for most online games I have played on the 360, party chat is blocked if you join up with friends.

And if there is an annoying kid...mute button.



I myself know for a fact that the people in my PSN friends list I know IRL do not have a mic or barely ever use it (I don't really use it either) and the people from my clan have a chatbox we talk in.

Dedicated chatbox > CGC

Less PS3 owners have headsets anyway, it's not that important.

And I love how people mention teamwork with the mics, I have NEVER EVER seen anyone use any kind of teamwork in any COD on XBL



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Party chat is like hanging out in a vent server, it's fun and social. Good unless you are a basement dwelling fatass aspie weeaboo who is forever alone IRL and online.



youarebadatgames said:
Party chat is like hanging out in a vent server, it's fun and social. Good unless you are a basement dwelling fatass aspie weeaboo who is forever alone IRL and online.


Thats some pretty dumb generalisation. Either you talk with cross game chat or you are a fatass aspies weeaboo who is foreever alone in real life. In the same line of thought, if you use party chat you dont have enough friends in real life.



smroadkill15 said:
Ajescent said:
lurkerwithnosoul said:
oniyide said:
lurkerwithnosoul said:
I pretty much agree with Kowenicki. You guys just say that because this gen, you can't have it. But unless you are the non-talkative kind, or just play single-player games, you will find that CGC is a much needed feature.


im a non-talker, but could you explain to me why i need to be able to talk to someone who is not even playing the game im playing??? Cause my friends who have 360 dont even use the feature and think its useless too.

 

Why wouldn't you? Isn't nice to be able to talk with a group of friends while playing any video-game? You have always the option to restrict the number of players in the party, or even mute the person you don't want to hear.

Hi, I'm the non-talkative type who just plays single player games. With that said, when play MP games, I always keep my mic cut and everyone else muted. Even when I played MagBeta and Uncharted 2MP, I didn't like chatting unless it was unavoidablly necessary.

Why the need to talk to people? Especially those who aren't playing the same game as you? I can understand wanting to talk to someone playing the same game as you e.g in co-op or just "banter" in versus but talking to some guy playing portal whilst you are playing COD is beyond me, becuase if I were playing a game with story or heck, a single player game like Pro Evo, I wouldn't want some random talking nonsense to me because I want to focus on my game at hand.

I guess I'm just a better multitasker than you lol jk. I understand not wanting to talk to someone playing a engaging story or watching a movie, but in multiplayer(which I mainly do) or If I'm sitting at the dashboard waiting for something to download, I like to talk to people. When I played Portal 2 I was able to keep conversation at the same time concentrating on the game, no problem. Some friends join a party and they want to know about the game I'm playing like I was doing in Portal. I guess I'm just use to talking to people while playing a game because I do it a lot now.

I would understand for someone that mainly plays single player games or has never used the feature very much might not care for it, but I have done it so much now it doesn't distract me when playing a game. For the most part, when I'm in a party with someone we usually talk about gaming not just out of the blue stuff. I know talking to you, your not the general audience, but I'm sure most PS3 owners would love to have this feature on PSN.     

 

What I don't get is what's so pressing that you have to talk to that person whilst your console is on?

If my console is background downloading and I have no real interest in using it at the time then I either switch it to fold or switch it to standby before moving on to something else. I suppose maybe it's because I don't particularly know about 80% of my list but the rest that I do know, I don't feel its necessary to converse with them extensively whilst playing the same game let alone playing completely different games.



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brendude13 said:
smroadkill15 said:


I understand not wanting to talk to someone when your playing a deep engaging single player, but multiplayer is completely different. When I'm with a friend(s) playing Halo or COD I want to talk to my teammates because it's a very teamwork oriented games, so communication is key. If there is an annoying kid, I can get with my other 3-4 friends I'm playing with and start a party chat to avoid such people. I guess I'm just used to talking to people when I play games so it doesn't bother me.   

You don't own a PS3...

And everything you just said is possible on the PS3, for most online games I have played on the 360, party chat is blocked if you join up with friends.

And if there is an annoying kid...mute button.

The only game that has party chat blocked is MW2.   



I don't buy this. The ps3's OS still uses more overall ram than the 360's.

Now, it may be that, currently, they cannot allocate ram to cross game voice chat given what they're using in other areas, but I wouldn't be surprised if they could further decrease the OS's ram footprint like they've been doing all generation, thus allowing them to implement voice chat down the road.

They just freed up several megabytes of ram for developers to use earlier in the year.