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TheFallen said:
I understandpeople's disappointment. Sony may have not said earlier that CGC wasn't possible because they were trying to get a workaround the ram issue. Guess they figured it a lost cause this late in the game. Sony will learn from this and build CGC into the PS4 OS. They have to.

That's what I got from this, too.  It really is a feature I don't care for myself.  Probably would use it maybe once or twice every few months, but I can understand some people wanting it.  I'm sure Sony will think about this with the PS4 and give it at least 1 or 2 GB of system RAM.



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How did it take five years for something so simple to be explained?

At least I finally know I'll never get cross-game chat.



smroadkill15 said:
It makes me sad so many people don't care for cross-game chat. There are some features on XBL and PSN people use and some people don't use like Netflix, HOME, ESPN, Hulu, etc, but cross-game chat is one of those features everyone, I mean EVERYONE uses. I don't know a single person on XBL that doesn't use cross-game chat or doesn't like it because it's just one of those features that have just makes XBL so damn good. The people that say they don't care for cross-game chat and either liars or have never used the feature before so they don't know how awesome it really is.

Rant over/

Crap, my xbox friends do NOT use cross game chat at all. They barely use headsets. I they dont care for it. I have used it once before and i thought it was stupid. I barely use a headset for my games let alone wanting to talk to someone who is not even playing a game im playing. What would that benefit me?? WOuld it not be easier to pick up my phone and call that person?? CGC waste of time for me



i can't chat with people while i'm playing video games, so it's a good news for me... xD

it only does everything for true gamers like me... xD



@ The guys saying that "they should have said this years ago".

The OS' ram usage has been shrinking as updates were released. There was some news a while ago that the system has gained somewhere around 80-120MB since it's release. Games now are using more ram on the system than games in the earlier years. This is no doubt one of the reasons why some PS3 games actually release with the latest firmware on disc so that you can update incase your ps3 isn't connected to the internet. You have to consider that while freeing up ram for future features they also have developer that are always asking for more ram so that also takes priority.

SONY's made a comment in the past that they know it's something that gamers want and it's in the works. It's been no.1 on share blog since SONY started that section of their website. Numerous devs such has Naughty Dog have also made it obvious that it's something that's been constantly worked on.

I think the reason they're saying this now is because they've simply finally accepted that they just couldn't get it to work while at the same time providing more freedom for devs which obviously had to take priority seeing as devs were from the get go not to happy with working with the PS3.



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I kind of expected this all along, after learning about computer hardware I knew SONY were struggling with RAM limitations and that cross-game chat would consume a fair amount of it, RAM space which SONY had already told developers it would be ok to use.

It took a while for them to come clean though, at least they did.



Hornet303 said:
smroadkill15 said:
It makes me sad so many people don't care for cross-game chat. There are some features on XBL and PSN people use and some people don't use like Netflix, HOME, ESPN, Hulu, etc, but cross-game chat is one of those features everyone, I mean EVERYONE uses. I don't know a single person on XBL that doesn't use cross-game chat or doesn't like it because it's just one of those features that have just makes XBL so damn good. The people that say they don't care for cross-game chat and either liars or have never used the feature before so they don't know how awesome it really is.

Rant over/

Good, maybe you can give me an example of how you typically use it.  I only have a PS3, and I hear tons about Cross-Game Chat, but I still fail to understand how its typically used.  You sign into XBL, you boot up a game of skate 3.  You jump in a channel in which a few of your XBL friends are on and playing other games?  I make a comment like that was a sick line, another friend shoots someone in the head on COD, and the third is playing an RPG that has no multiplayer at all and he just casted wizards breath.

 

So if this is true, you cant really talk about the game.. you just talk about school or homework or who is the biggest dousche on Jersey Shore?  If this is the typical application, then I could serihttp://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/reply.php?id=133028&quote=4187046ously care less.

 

What does sound applicable to me would be if Im online playing skate and my friend wants me to join his game of COD, he chats me up to tell me to join his game blah blah.. then we go do that and chat inside game.  Similar to a join game request, just done in a 30 second conversation?

 

Basically it works like this. You turn on your Xbox. While your sitting at the dashboard you decide to play a game of Battlefield, COD, watch a Netflix, etc. or just want to talk to a friend.  You send your friend(s) an invitation to a Party chat,Up to 8 people can join the Party and there you go. It's extremely simple, but very useful.

I use party chat 95% of the time when I turn on my Xbox and I think most people would agree that they would rather get in a party chat and talk to some friends while playing a game that listen to some annoying kids. 



oniyide said:
smroadkill15 said:
It makes me sad so many people don't care for cross-game chat. There are some features on XBL and PSN people use and some people don't use like Netflix, HOME, ESPN, Hulu, etc, but cross-game chat is one of those features everyone, I mean EVERYONE uses. I don't know a single person on XBL that doesn't use cross-game chat or doesn't like it because it's just one of those features that have just makes XBL so damn good. The people that say they don't care for cross-game chat and either liars or have never used the feature before so they don't know how awesome it really is.

Rant over/

Crap, my xbox friends do NOT use cross game chat at all. They barely use headsets. I they dont care for it. I have used it once before and i thought it was stupid. I barely use a headset for my games let alone wanting to talk to someone who is not even playing a game im playing. What would that benefit me?? WOuld it not be easier to pick up my phone and call that person?? CGC waste of time for me


I think most people would agree it's a lot easier to send a party chat with a push of a button than to call someone on the phone because I have a feeling you don't have everyones phone number that is on your friends list. Who wants to run up a phone bill if it's someone out of state or even out of the country. Plus you can talk to more than one person in a party chat. I could come up with more reason if you want me to? 



smroadkill15 said:
Hornet303 said:
smroadkill15 said:
It makes me sad so many people don't care for cross-game chat. There are some features on XBL and PSN people use and some people don't use like Netflix, HOME, ESPN, Hulu, etc, but cross-game chat is one of those features everyone, I mean EVERYONE uses. I don't know a single person on XBL that doesn't use cross-game chat or doesn't like it because it's just one of those features that have just makes XBL so damn good. The people that say they don't care for cross-game chat and either liars or have never used the feature before so they don't know how awesome it really is.

Rant over/

Good, maybe you can give me an example of how you typically use it.  I only have a PS3, and I hear tons about Cross-Game Chat, but I still fail to understand how its typically used.  You sign into XBL, you boot up a game of skate 3.  You jump in a channel in which a few of your XBL friends are on and playing other games?  I make a comment like that was a sick line, another friend shoots someone in the head on COD, and the third is playing an RPG that has no multiplayer at all and he just casted wizards breath.

 

So if this is true, you cant really talk about the game.. you just talk about school or homework or who is the biggest dousche on Jersey Shore?  If this is the typical application, then I could serihttp://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/reply.php?id=133028"e=4187046ously care less.

 

What does sound applicable to me would be if Im online playing skate and my friend wants me to join his game of COD, he chats me up to tell me to join his game blah blah.. then we go do that and chat inside game.  Similar to a join game request, just done in a 30 second conversation?

 

Basically it works like this. You turn on your Xbox. While your sitting at the dashboard you decide to play a game of Battlefield, COD, watch a Netflix, etc. or just want to talk to a friend.  You send your friend(s) an invitation to a Party chat,Up to 8 people can join the Party and there you go. It's extremely simple, but very useful.

I use party chat 95% of the time when I turn on my Xbox and I think most people would agree that they would rather get in a party chat and talk to some friends while playing a game that listen to some annoying kids

What if one plays only single player games? Wouldn't it be distracting if I was to talk to someone while gaming? In the one year of XBL I had I never used cross game chat at all. I only used party chat which works like a private chat in-game. And even that is usually unnecessary. I mean you can just create a party in-game in many games on both the systems.

Not everybody likes to wear headsets all the time either. 95% of the time you play wearing headsets that's very weird to me.



smroadkill15 said:

Basically it works like this. You turn on your Xbox. While your sitting at the dashboard you decide to play a game of Battlefield, COD, watch a Netflix, etc. or just want to talk to a friend.  You send your friend(s) an invitation to a Party chat,Up to 8 people can join the Party and there you go. It's extremely simple, but very useful.

I use party chat 95% of the time when I turn on my Xbox and I think most people would agree that they would rather get in a party chat and talk to some friends while playing a game that listen to some annoying kids. 

I've stopped using it recently, I don't have many friends on XBOX.

Still, it's a nice feat, something the PS3 could have really found useful.

I keep in-game chat on though, otherwise certain game modes are blocked online, you can't wind people up and you can't hear the sex noises when someone does a great kill.