you must have been playing a different Fable game than i played, if you think that the experiences of the Fable series can be translated to to Kinect without losing anything then you either are clearly overestimating the power of Kinect and Peter Molyneux  or you are high on LSD. The man himself already stated that it would NOT be the same experience, its coming straight from the horse's mouth. I dont know why you keep harping on this casual thing, ididnt even make on stance on the subject either way. But screw, no, it wont be casual, you happy? ill say this, it will probably suck and it has nothing to do with the Kinect, at least not mostly

Wii didn't have a better conference, Nintendo had. But it was obvious from the beginning, you can do whatever you want when you ave a new hardware to present, still it'll be the most talked about. Even if they failed to deliver a great presentation for Wii U, still it showed a big change from Wii and a Nintendo trying to reach both markets...Sony had a good conference, as good as the last one, plus Vita's price was maybe the most surprising thing of the entire E3. Microsoft...Halo and Kinect, nothing bad about them but still it has been an average event, not an E3 one. The next one should be enteresting with maybe even the 3 main consoles announced/presented (I know, Sony "doesn't need PS4", but industry =/= Sony, if they jump on Wii U making better multiplatform games I doubt Sony will sit and see).

All I wanted to say is it's a core game. That's what STAGE and I have been arguing about, when you came in.

What specifically about Fable Kinect will make the game less appealing to a Fable fan? Obviously it won't be the same experience, but why will it be worse then any other Fable? Instead of a social wheel you tell it commands (wasn't Milo responsive to hundreds of commands?). Instead of A to jump, you jump, instead of an analog stick, you lean, instead of XYB, you have three different hand gestures. Heck, since Kinect recognizes hand gestures why not remove the whole magic submenu and make every magic spell a different command. Fable isn't a fast paced FPS or racing game, why would a different controller hinder the experience? Can't it just be different?

Also Peter Molyneux overhypes every game he makes. Why would he flat out say this game will suck? I've heard interviews, he is just as exceited for this project as he has been for any other.

I see a lot of people claiming Sony had a better press conference than MS, I also saw a lot of pissed off 360 fan (and a lot of troll) hate on the MS conference due to kinect. Who are claiming spefically PS3 > 360?

Regardless I see that I too made a mistake, you didn't start the thread.

It's quite the opposite I think...

And it isn't because it's AGAINST Sony, it's because it's a lie. If people are arguing over who won E3 it would be Sony vs. Nintendo, I think we can all agree that Microsoft did not have the best E3 conference, even die hard XBOX 360 fans. If somebody claims that Microsoft had the best E3, do you expect people just to nod and agree with him? No. To claim that anybody who says Microsoft didn't have the best E3 conference is a SONY fanboy is just idiotic.

Everyone has their own preferences, not a fan of Kinect either, but I don't ignore the Kinect games just because they don't appeal to me. Some look pretty cool, but they don't justify the purchase of a camera that costs as much as a console. MS has shifted its marketing strategy heavily, but it's mainly to keep the system fresh. They didn't expect to have an extended console life like this. Personally I'd rather have them invest less in Kinect, and put some money into Rare to make a good new Conker or Killer Instinct title.

Also, I only see one or two people claiming PS3 > 360 at this E3. There is STAGE and....that's it in this thread. It's fine to have your own preference, Wii, 360, and PS3 all failed to announce too many good new games. Just don't say one is better then the other because of all the games to competition offers, are not your type. The Wii games I am interested in weren't talked about at this E3, and Sony really only showed Uncharted 3 for PS3, but I don't go rubbing around the IMO superrior 360 upcoming lineup.

I just hate ignorance, some people can be pretty dumb (not pointing fingers), and I hate ignorant people ignore facts, but think they are right and press on it...

you do realise E3 is not meant for gamers but mostly for other professional of the industry and retailers.... so from that angle those 2 games are right where they are suppose to be when you want to show what you wanna do in different segment of the industry

REALLY?

Are you kidding? all that stuff you said sounds cool, but it will NOT be in this Fable Kinect game. Pete didnt mention any of those features, so im just gonna assume they will not be in the final game, at least for now. How the hell do you expect to move in a 3d world with just Kinect?? I havent seen a game do it yet. Im not saying it wont appeal to Fable fans, dont know where your getting that, hell the on rail REs appeal to RE fans, thats the point of those games. Cash in on the name of a popular franchise. FYI, did you read the part where he said that most of the game will be on a horse??

You do know Fable Kinect has movement? One big think Lionhead Studios was ripped on about was that people thought Fable: The Journey was "on rails." However it isn't it has free world exploring. Most likely not as expansive as Fable 1-3, but you can move around. Remember the Ghost Recon Kinect demo? Remember for a breif moment he played that game using only the Kinect controller? He moved forward by stepping forward, and shot by sticking up all his fingers.

What is RE? Fable: The Journey is not on rails. Peter Monyloux explained tha, and he said he should have showed other footage in the game then just that. From what i hear from Peter Monyloux, what I explained is what he wants, but knowing him, we won't get it until Fable: The Second Journey.

I read how most of the game you will ride a horse. Is that suppose to be bad? You ride a horse all the time in Ocarina of Time in Hyrule.

I'm not trying to argue Fable: TJ will be as good as Fable 1-3, but only that it won't be bad. I'm not ready to write off the game until it's closer to release.