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CGI-Quality said:
reviniente said:

From digital-digest.com:

The figures for US sales in December 2010 are below, ranked in order of number of sales (December 2009 figures also shown, including percentage change):

  • Wii: 2,360,000  (Total: 34.2 million; December 2009: 3,810,000 – down 38%)
  • Xbox 360: 1,860,000 (Total: 25.4 million; December 2009: 1,310,000 – up 42%)
  • PS3: 1,210,000 (Total: 15.5 million; December 2009: 1,360,000 – down 11%)

NPD December 2010 Game Console US Sales Figures

http://www.digital-digest.com/blog/DVDGuy/2011/01/15/game-consoles-december-2010-npd-sales-figure-analysis/

Oooh! GT5 releases on 11.24.10 and the PS3 is down for the whole of December by 11%. Try again.

 

What's interesting, you point out the one region where GT5 wasn't expected to have a large, system-moving impact. Showing an NPD chart is useless, because nobody said GT5 would move massive systems in the Americas.

Let's try another perspective:

Pre-GT5 week (EMEAA) -

Wii 244,777 ( 10%) 29,543,008
PS3 189,005 (-15%) 19,636,579
X360 181,485 (-13%) 17,674,327

Pre-GT5 week (Japan) -

PS3 27,867 ( 45%) 5,806,913
Wii 26,017 (-31%) 10,837,944
X360 6,348 ( 197%) 1,417,179

GT5 week (Japan) -

PS3 65,618 ( 135%) 5,872,531
Wii 40,736 ( 57%) 10,878,680
X360 4,284 (-33%) 1,421,463

GT5 Week (EMEAA) -

Wii 338,491 ( 38%) 29,881,499
PS3 330,155 ( 75%) 19,966,734
X360 205,440 ( 13%) 17,879,767

Look at what console had the largest increases.

 

PS3 WW GT5 week -

PS3 767,677 ( 121%) 42,636,605

Same week in 2009 WW -

PS3 781,081 ( 96%) 27,957,381

 

PS3 EMEAA Dec 2010 WW - 1,707,733

PS3 EMEAA WW Dec 2009 WW - 1,564,482

In the region where GT5 was expected to have it's largest impact on PS3 hardware, it had it.  

Very well, i'll let you have this one, but I'd argue (successfully, I might add) that NPD info is not useless, specially for companies like SCEA who are vying for top of the list in this most important market. The Americas isn't a region I'd wager SON¥ would feel overjoyed about coming up dead last in. Cheerio.



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Hey why did the 360 drop so much this week? PS3 is boosted from Killzone 3 sales 2 weeks ago, and it's dropping no faster then 360 sales. Is this a sign that 360's Holiday lead is now over, or is there some discount in Americas holding PS3 sales up a bit more then 360 this week?

Hm... maybe PS3 can still outsell the 360 in 2011. The difference probably won't be major, except bragging rights, but still. Well at least PS3 earns it with all the software they have planned.

Hope to see some Wii games localize here soon. The Last Story, Pikmin 3, Zelda, XenoBlades, and Dragon Quest X are all on my radar.



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Michael-5 said:

Hey why did the 360 drop so much this week? PS3 is boosted from Killzone 3 sales 2 weeks ago, and it's dropping no faster then 360 sales. Is this a sign that 360's Holiday lead is now over, or is there some discount in Americas holding PS3 sales up a bit more then 360 this week?

Hm... maybe PS3 can still outsell the 360 in 2011. The difference probably won't be major, except bragging rights, but still. Well at least PS3 earns it with all the software they have planned.

Hope to see some Wii games localize here soon. The Last Story, Pikmin 3, Zelda, XenoBlades, and Dragon Quest X are all on my radar.

With all the exclusives they're churning out, they should.



reviniente said:
Michael-5 said:

Hey why did the 360 drop so much this week? PS3 is boosted from Killzone 3 sales 2 weeks ago, and it's dropping no faster then 360 sales. Is this a sign that 360's Holiday lead is now over, or is there some discount in Americas holding PS3 sales up a bit more then 360 this week?

Hm... maybe PS3 can still outsell the 360 in 2011. The difference probably won't be major, except bragging rights, but still. Well at least PS3 earns it with all the software they have planned.

Hope to see some Wii games localize here soon. The Last Story, Pikmin 3, Zelda, XenoBlades, and Dragon Quest X are all on my radar.

With all the exclusives they're churning out, they should.

Depends, most of the software PS3 is releasing are sequels, and if since there is no price cut as of yet, titles like KZ3 and LBP2 shouldn't push console sales when KZ2 and LBP1 were released for the same price point PS3.

I would imagine that Kinect will sell a lot of units in fall 2011, just like it did in Fall 2010. Question is, will PS3 make a gap by then, and if so, will it be enough to hold off the boosted holiday sales due to the casual game audience (who happen to be largly associated with Americas region, look at Wii 2010 sales).



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reviniente said:
Michael-5 said:

See, I never insult GT5. My comments are very different from reviniente's.

GT5 is a good game, I'm so tired of being critisized for believing it won't sell 10 million. I don't see what the big deal is.

Also my opinion on rating, I think it affects game sales, but it doesn't affect casual games much. So long as the core structure of the game is inviting, and the name is establihed, the game will sell well. Ratings only affect the games relative position with respect to other games in the franchise.

Halo Reach and GT5 I believe will sell less then Halo 3 and GT1,3,4 mainly due to ratings IMO. Still, for Halo Reach, that's still 10 million plus terretory, and for GT5, probably just under 10 million. Pretty awesome sales none-the less.

Games like Resident Evil, Lost Planet, Elder Scrolls, Fallout and Dead Rising are more strongly affected by ratings because they are still required to define themselves. All of these games are of a much smaller scope then GT and Halo, design choices can severly affect a game like this. However it's not just ratings, Fallout NV got bad ratings for being similar to Fallout 3, but Fallout 3 was such a good game, I don't think most people care, thats why the game will still sell just as well.

 

Thats my opinion, but don't include me into this debate...

It's an OK game. Problem is, it was supposed to be outstanding. Two years ago. It was supposed to move tons of systems, at least more than the X360. It didn't. In fact, I can't find the Holy Grail in the Top 40. What place is it in?

Not all the games fault. I think it's great, but Forza 3 is the biggest, most polished compeditor GT5 has ever seen.. I can see why poor reviews, Forza, and the PS3 demograph hurt sales by 10-20% total, which really isn't that much.



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Michael-5 said:
reviniente said:
Michael-5 said:

Hey why did the 360 drop so much this week? PS3 is boosted from Killzone 3 sales 2 weeks ago, and it's dropping no faster then 360 sales. Is this a sign that 360's Holiday lead is now over, or is there some discount in Americas holding PS3 sales up a bit more then 360 this week?

Hm... maybe PS3 can still outsell the 360 in 2011. The difference probably won't be major, except bragging rights, but still. Well at least PS3 earns it with all the software they have planned.

Hope to see some Wii games localize here soon. The Last Story, Pikmin 3, Zelda, XenoBlades, and Dragon Quest X are all on my radar.

With all the exclusives they're churning out, they should.

Depends, most of the software PS3 is releasing are sequels, and if since there is no price cut as of yet, titles like KZ3 and LBP2 shouldn't push console sales when KZ2 and LBP1 were released for the same price point PS3.

I would imagine that Kinect will sell a lot of units in fall 2011, just like it did in Fall 2010. Question is, will PS3 make a gap by then, and if so, will it be enough to hold off the boosted holiday sales due to the casual game audience (who happen to be largly associated with Americas region, look at Wii 2010 sales).

And you would be absolutely correct. See, people hear about the Kinect, they go and see the Kinect, they like the Kinect, they want a Kinect and before they know it, they're sitting in front of a Kinect in their living rooms. But, Oh-oh! In order for your friends and family members to start enjoying the Kinect, they need an X360. Some people already have it, but some just don't, so you need to go out and get yourself a preety sleek 'n shiny black new X360. And by the time you have an X360 in your hands, you would've never had imagined that in order to play what you wanted (the Kinect), you needed to turn to an X360 first. M$ knows this: lure the masses in with the Kinect and turn them into X360 owners  XBOX live users. Owners that will play lots of Kinect games as well as many of the wonderful games in the massive X360 library, and play online (for a fee) with their pals. And that's how M$ increases system population and, dare I say it, revenue. Genius! Kinect is a ploy. A killer ploy, and the way it work's a thing o' beauty. Salut!



ps3 is gonna outsell 360 this year. so many exclusives, it'll be hard not to. i think this is also the year we see ps3 reach $199, the so called mass market price and the ps3 has obviously never been that price so we dont know what to expect. looks like 2009 all over again. maybe even better.



SOLIDSNAKE08 said:

ps3 is gonna outsell 360 this year. so many exclusives, it'll be hard not to. i think this is also the year we see ps3 reach $199, the so called mass market price and the ps3 has obviously never been that price so we dont know what to expect. looks like 2009 all over again. maybe even better.


i dont think sony could affoard a 199 ps3. i think its more likely we see a 99 360 than a 199 ps3.



Halo MCC will sell 5+ million copies(including digital)

halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.

hudsoniscool said:
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:

ps3 is gonna outsell 360 this year. so many exclusives, it'll be hard not to. i think this is also the year we see ps3 reach $199, the so called mass market price and the ps3 has obviously never been that price so we dont know what to expect. looks like 2009 all over again. maybe even better.


i dont think sony could affoard a 199 ps3. i think its more likely we see a 99 360 than a 199 ps3.

Yea, do you really think a $100 price cut makes sence? I would think $50 is a reasonable price cut, and two $50 price cuts by fall 2012 would probably be more realistic.



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