im done with you. This is the last reply to you, you finally get what you want. 

I don't share your crisis. Split between my Wii, PS3, and 360 I have 100 games. Last Gen I had about 100 games split between my PS2 and Gamecube and bought about 20 more XB1 titles when I got my 360.

I also don't think this is the reason exclusives don't sell well on PS3. PS3, like PS2 has a very diversified audience. Games like CoD and GTA sell well because they are well known games in the media. If I talked to my friend who only has a PS2 about games, he would know about CoD and GTA, and maybe LBP, but not Resistance, Killzone, Demon Souls, or Mass Effect.

Gears of War and Halo sell well because they established themselves in a past generation, or early into this generation. Killzone 2 was a 2009 title. Uncharted and LBP fair a little better because they started earlier and have gotten more media attention, and Resistance 1 was often looked at as an inferior compeditor to Gears, so it, like InFamous, and Killzone, have been kind of ignored.

Also of the AAA PS3 titles, a lot of them are very different. I don't think the release of LBP2 will affect most Killzone 3 buyers. Besides, Fall 2010 PS3 didn't have much outside of GT5 and multiplatform titles, so people who were honestly interested in KZ3, could have saved up.

Standing up to the supressor, GJ!

Thats not quite true. The week Killzone 2 launched it boosted hardware by 32%. The week Killzone 3 launched it boosted hardware by 17%. Yes Killzone 2 was released prior to the Slim PS3, in a time when PS3 sales were much less, but still.

It really depends how you look at it, but I think a game that launched earlier into a consoles lifetime, when there is less competition among games, and boosted more sales will likely have stronger legs.

Still 1.5-2.5 million is very likely for KZ3. About the same range as HR.

100% True. Lost Odyssey, a really good quality JRPG created by the creator of Final Fantasy only sold 600k lifetime. Final Fantasy XIII sold 2:1 better on the PS3 then 360, almost entirely because to the Japanese Market (which bought 2 million copies of FFXIII, as it was exclusive at the time in Japan). Also GT5 is likely to outsell Forza 3 by 3:2, but that may largly be due to brand recognition.

In Americas, KZ3 boosted PS3 sales by 24% compared to the prior week (or 23k), while KZ2 boosted console sales by 21% compared to the prior week (or 15.7k). So your right.

I thought you were refering to worldwide console boost because KZ3 did not boost sales as much as KZ2 did worldwide.

In EMEAA KZ3 boosted PS3 sales by 16% (or 13.3k) and KZ2 boosted PS3 sales by 21% (or 11.5k). So it's close, but in terms of an actual boost in consoles (which is more accuratly represented by %, not raw units) EMEAA KZ2 had a stronger boost.

So chances are KZ3 will have similar legs to KZ2. Stronger Americas boost, slightly weaker EMEAA boost, and worldwide boost is weaker too, but the legs shouldn't be too different.

But the worldwide boost is in favor of KZ2. Did Japan really make that much of a difference? Also in Americas the difference in boost is only 3%, which is hardly a difference, EMEAA was a 5% boost in favor of KZ2.

Week of KZ2 PS3 sales boosted 32% (or 46.8k), and for KZ3 PS3 sales boosted 17% (or 34.5k). So worldwide KZ3 boosted PS3's less which was my initial point.

Still you never know, Halo Reach launched to a slightly bigger launch then Halo 3, but in the long run its sales will probably fall short of Halo 3. All we can say for KZ3 is that without bundling it will probably get 2-2.5 million lifetime. Maybe 3 million, but KZ2 is only at 2.6 million, so thats a bit of a stretch.

Shame, game deserves more cred, but then again Vanquish sold 600k combined on both HD platforms, and that game is just as good.

Don't sigh me, thats rude. Yakuza may have come out in 2009 the week of Killzone 2, but the week of Killzone 3 Japan also got Disgaea 4, and Rune Factory Oceans. So the effects of Yakuza 3 are not as absolute as you make it. Still Yakuza 3 is 3x as big as Rune Factory and Disgaea combined, so I will still omit Japan's data for future analysis.

Also why did you post those boost comparisions? I already stated the exact same figures above, it's still quoted LOL.

In americas, KZ3 only pushed 3% more then KZ2, which isn't a huge deal. In EMEAA KZ2 pushed 5% more units then KZ3, but thats a smaller region.

Ommiting Japan KZ2 boosted PS3 sales by 18% (or 27k), and KZ3 boosted PS3 sales by 18% (or 39k). KZ2 pushed just the same, even after you omit Japan, and only consider Americas and EMEAA. Please verify my math, the % boost is the same. The number of consoles sold ig higher, but BulletStorm likely helped KZ3 a bit there too. So if anything KZ3 boosted consoles less then KZ2. (remember the launch of KZ2, Halo Wars was released, so it also had competition holding it back).

So I still disagree with you about bigger legs, but believe what you like. Regardless the difference between KZ2 and 3 is minimal (<5%). KZ3 should see sales close to KZ2 levels, but still sub 3 million sales.

Problem moving more hardware is different from "giving hardware a bigger boost." In terms of fisical numbers, it moved 12k more units in a time where PS3 sales are stronger, hadly much of a difference. It boosted numbers within 1% of KZ2, which is what really matters.

Also I did say Yakuza is bigger and omit the data.

Anyway believe what you like, but don't lead people on KZ3 did not boost hardware more then KZ2. I've tried numerous times to settle on a result (KZ3 like will be about the same as KZ2), but you love to end arguements with a demeaning remark, especially when I prove a point to you.

Move was also there to push it that much more or it should have.