K, Wiki had Dead Island as a 360 exclusive, but on the page itself it says PS3 too. I didn't get to look into every one of these games.

Which 2011 360 titles do you not think will be released in 2011? MS doesn't have a history of delaying games, and most of those games have set release dates.

Wait, what 50 games for PS3? Thats overexageratted. I looked at your link, it was like 30, 30 - 10 = 20, well 19 to be exact here.

A lot of those 360 games, are Kinect games, they can't go multiplatform, and the only rumored game is Halo: Combat Evolved, and the reason it's on the list is because 343 Studios promised a Halo every year. Gears of War Exile is a registered game, and there is a lot of talk about it being released in 2011. It may be a 2012 title, but it's hardly enough to say that many of the 360 games on that list will be pushed back to 2012. I beleive everyting on that list has a 2011 release date, except Demons of Mercy and Dungeon Hero, so I can move those to 2012 then.

Sony has a history of delaying games, MS is known not to even announce games until very late. So I don't think anything from MS (Firefly Studios, Kinect exclusives, 343 Studios, etc) will be delayed. I think except for Dead Island, thats a very detailed and accurate list. 16 vs. 19 isn't a big difference, and we dunno what MS and Sony will announce at E3 this year.

I heard on another site that I just is coming to ps3 recently so I'm guessing it was annouced as a 360 exclusive and even though MS doesn't have a history of releasing games you are ignoring that fact that MS isn't behind alot of those games, as for ones that stand out for not comming out in 2011 project draco would be the first on that list Demons of Mercy is TBA I don't think it will be in 2011 (also think it might come to ps3 like Dead island) Gears of War Exile I have my  doubts about making it in by the end of the year same with Codename D

I'm guessing you aren't counting the psn ones for ps3 (they're after the notable multiplats with exclusive content) I count 35 disc exclusives 14 psn games and 3 re-release collections and your list of 360 exclusives that is less then 20 has xbl games in it 

Again your math is off, Sony clearly has the better line up this year and I think that will translate into more sales 

Didn't count PSN games because I don't really pay attention to XBL, or PSN games, and I don't even really consider them full out games.

Dead Island was listed on Wikipedia as a 360 exclusive way back, and it's still on the list of 360 exclusives, but Gears 3 is still set for an April 2011 release date there too so :-/

I moved Demons of Mercy and Dungeon Hero to 2012, still 16 to 19 games. Codename D is TBA 2011 on IGN. As for Project Draco, I've heard it's planned to be a 2011 title, but I dunno.

Also, like I said, a lot of those games on the PS3 list will not make it to Americas/EMEAA by 2011, if at all. Yakuza: Of the End, FF Versus XIII, White Knight Chronicles 2, Disgaea 4, Trinity, Ar tonelico, Record of Agarest War 2 (1 hasn't even made it over, and 1 is multiplatform), Atelier Totori, Tales of Xilla, Ni no Kuni, Disaster Report 4 (1-3 have not been released outside of Japan), Tokyo Jungle, Samari Warriors 3Z, Way of the Samarai 4 (3 was a timed exclusive), Bleach: Soul Ignition, and Ape Escape. These 16 games, have either a confirmed 2012 release date, no release plans outside of Japan, or in the case of Way of the Samari 4, not even confirmed exclusives.

Recounting that list, I only have 18 PS3 games since Ape Escape has no set release date.

So my math is fine, 16 vs 18, not a big difference.

Wow you make ALOT of baseless assumptions, first your basic math is off 35-16 is 19 not 18, second Trinity is already out in NA, Disgaea 4 and Ar tonelico, have a 2011 release date and Atelier Totori 2 and White night chronicles 2 both came in out in 2010 in japan and their predecesors came out in a time frame that would allow both the games to be out in 2011 if they followed it not to mention that if I cut games off your list because they might end up or ps3 or don't have a confirmed release date you'd be down to 5 you are being very biased in the way you are handling it, you are cutting ps3 games for things which you ignore 360 games for and I said gears exile, the kinect gears, not the actual gears game 

EDIT you also counted the halo remake but ignored the 3 ps3 remakes 

18 1 port (ICO Collection). So my math is right.

hm.. well look at that, i made a few mistakes. I saw Disgaea's Japan release date and assumed a 1 year delay time. Trinity just came out, and Ar Tonelico is Q2 2011. So I made 3 mistakes, I'll add them in.

But on IGN, Atelier Totori 2 is TBA, not TBA 2011, so it still doesn't count. White Knight Chronicles 2 is also TBA on IGN, so you making just as many mistakes as me too.

and don't bring in the timed exclusive debate, a few of ps3 games also become timed exclusives. Record or Agarest War 2, Way of the Samarai, and FF Versus XIII all have either a good or decent chance to be timed exclusive. Not all exclusive 3rd party titles become timed exclusive, and either way were talking about exclusives for 2011, which they still will be.

Al the 360 games have a 2011 realese date, except for Project Draco.

I'm doing thos very non-biased, I didn't look into every single game, sorry, but the point still stands. MS has about as many exclusives as PS3. Remember MS announces games very late, it's likely that MS will announce a few more titles at E3 2011, or maybe in the next couple months. I mean Gears 2 was announced February the year of release, and Forza 3 was in May of the same year. I only have Halo included because it's strongly believed to be a 360 title this year, that or at least Halo Kinect (which MS has a domain name reserved).

The Halo remake is also not a direct port. ICO collection is an HD port, thats different. Halo will have multiplayer and new levels, something Halo 1 didn't have, ICO collection will be the exact same 2 games rendered in 1080p.

5 games for 360, common, that's just insulting. Who are you trying to prove? There are more then 5 Kinect games comming out as exclusives. I'm editing the list with your suggestions, you don't need to undermine me.

I also forgot to include Body and Brain Kinect, and the First Templar, so I must be biased....typical, anything pro 360 on this thread gets labeled "biased."

Either way in the end, 21 PS3 games, 17 360 games. Considering it's still February that number may balance by years end. PS3 does not have more software support then 360, and I'm sorry, but 360 is looking to have a stronger year selling consoles.

BTW Is Michael Phelps 360 exclusive? It's listed for 2011, but I dunno if it's exclusive. It's a Kinect game.

No it isn't I counted ICO collection in collections NOT disk based games another wrong assumption and I didn't make any mistakes I said WHK2 and Atelier Totori 2 will come out in 2011 if they take the same amount of time as their originals you should read what I type more carefully and if you aren't going to count them then take off all the games on the 360 list that aren't TBA 2011 (project draco is TBA I just looked it up) same with Steel Batallion: Heavy Armor and the halo remake it's rumored 2011 not confirmed and theres probably more if you look at everyone of them on the list and theres no proof halo remake will have new levels or use a different code in the multiplayer and the ICO collection is alot more then an HD port 

Yes the 5 was an exaguration but you are not doing this non-biasedly you are looking for any excuse to take away ps3 titles and used rumored and TBA 360 games and I love how you just assume no1 is going to come out with more ps3 games but they will 360 games, and ps3 games will get delayed but 360 games won't even without an official annoucement

No 360 really doesn't there are still about 10 games that can go either way that you counted out for ps3 and about 5 of them that you counted for 360 that might not come out and again your math was off and your counting a halo remake which is a rumor and none of the ps3 collections, that sounds biased to me nevermind the fact that most of the games are kinect 3rd party shovelware which will likely get a counter part on wii or move just because thats what those companies usually do 

EDIT: I also read somewhere that haunt is a xbl game not a disk one, what do you know http://www.xboxgaming.co.za/games/h/haunt/

Okay looking over the lists again, I realize Final Fantasy XIV is not included, but this game got a 4/10 rating. However since Sesaeme Street is included, it counts. Also "The Agency" is a 2011 title, not 2012 like I thought at first, so that brings the PS3 list to 22 games (I counted Move Heros twice before, so subtract 1 from that), and 360 still at 17. However this isn't that ridiculous of a software difference as you make it out to be. A lot of games on this list (Both MS and Sony) won't push any consoles. Also many of these games (both MS and Sony) will likely get delayed to 2012. 5 of the games on the PS3 list were actually games delayed from 2010, how many will get delayed to 2012? Only Prey 2 for 360 was delayed to 2011.

I doubled checked now, if my math is wrong, please tell me what game I am missing so I can include it.

As for White Knight Chronicles 2, sometimes translating games takes a while, there is no release window set for 2011 as of yet, so just like Project Draco, it doesn't count. Also I've heard rumors that this game won't even make it outside of Japan since the first one sold so poorly overseas.

Atelier is set for 2012, so it doesn't count.

Steel Batallion is TBA 2011 on IGN, go check again, and I took Project Draco out.

343 studios promised a Halo every year, thats why Halo remake is on the list. For all we know it won't be a Halo Remake, and rumors say that another developer will be making it. However, it won't be an HD port like ICO Collection is. If it were, it wouldn't be a full $60 retail game.

ICO Collection is listed as an "HD Compilation" on IGN. It's an HD port, with bonus features, which is completly different from a remake. It's equivalent to the God of War Collection.

What are you talking about counting out games? I'm being fair on both consoles. Whatever is registered as a 2011 exclusive title is included. We dunno what games are going to be timed exclusives, and it's likely many PS3 games will also be timed exclusives too. Also, most of 360's exclusives are Kinect exclusives (10 Forza), how could those ever become multiplatform? The other 6 are half 1st party, half 3rd. PS3 has 6 third party titles, should I count those all out too if third party games don't count on 360?

Look, that list is thorough, argue all you want, but the exclusive software lineup isn't that different. If you find an exclusive not mentioned with a confirmed 2011 release date, I'll add it in, but as it is (and I think I've looked into all these games now) there are 17 360 exclusives, and 22 PS3 exclusives for 2011 as of now.

It's not biased, Halo counts because it's a remake, not a PS2 game ported. There is a difference. I'm also not counting 5 360 games, and counting out 10 PS3 games, what PS3 games am I counting out? Games which might not make it to Americas, or have no set 2011 release date?

Also as for Haunt, I see nothing about it being XBLA on IGN. That link you provided also states Project Draco and Codename D are XBLA games. From what I know so far, being an XBLA game is a rumor, and not well founded as there are no confirmed Kinect capable Arcade games. Say what you wan't, but thats not biased.

Again Halo remake is only RUMORED 2011 it's not confirmed, it's not even confirmed to be in the making so counting it is biased even if you are convinced it's significally different from the original (which there is no proof of either) and if you really think MS is above charging full retail for an HD remake you are naive and promising something every year and an actual release date are two very different things 

check IGN again http://xbox360.ign.com/objects/086/086594.html Release Date: TBA you know what I'm just going to go down the list

http://ps3.ign.com/objects/849/849135.html Prey 2 is on ps3, why do you have it as 360 exclusive? 

http://xbox360.ign.com/objects/077/077597.html Release Date: TBA Codename kingdoms also not 2011 

http://xbox360.ign.com/objects/019/019496.html Release Date: TBA Mech Warrior also TBA not TBA 2011

and I can't find anything on the halo remake at all, so thats the 5 your counting on 360 that shouldn't if your only counting 2011 release dates (not expected to release actual release dates) and if haunt is an arcade title it shouldn't be there either but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt

so thats 22 to 12 that seems like a big difference to me and I think ps3s games are better quality in the most part too I mean only a few games on the 360 list can even compete and that to me makes me think ps3 will sell more, maybe not overtake the 360 but certainly close the gap 

EDIT grease also isn't exclusive http://123kinect.com/grease-coming-2011-kinect/

"Now we’ve green-lit the PS3 and 360 versions, and we are making sure that they will be all-singing and all-dancing."

so 22 to 11 PS3 has double 

K so Prey probably was an exclusive which went multiplatform.

As for the rest, according to IGN, Steel Batallion, and Codename D are TBA 2011.

As for Project Kingdoms, Gametrailers used to have the release date April 1st 2011, but that was changed to TBA, however Joystick and www.projectkingdoms.org have a 2011 release date, but I guess it's still just a rumor. So I'll take it down, put it in 2012 and say rumored 2011 release.

Your also right about MechWarrior, but that link you gave me does not say anywhere that Grease is not a 360 exclusive. It's based off a Wii game, but it will be "very different" from the Wii and DS game according to that article. So it still counts.

Still, you knocked off 3 360 games, but while looking up links to verify those release dates, I found this:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/114/1143572p1.html

There are a few more exclusive 360 games, with release dates here, which neither of us have previously seen. Dance Paradise, Fantastic Pets, and Michael Phelps are all 360 exclusives.

So it's still 17 to 22, not a crazy difference.

Also how many of those PS3 games will be delayed to 2012? 5 of the games on the list were already delayed from 2010 (LBP2, and The Last Guardian in particular), where 360 there are zero. MS also has a history of announcing games late, and Sony early, so this list could very well even out.

I'll edit that list accordingly.

IGN is the site I linked and it said they were TBA NOT TBA 2011 where the hell are you getting your info? The link said it would be different then the DS and wii version not the ps3 version (which the link said was inthe making) and if you think the ps3 version is going to be different too grease should be under ps3 exclusives as well as 360 ones and you are still counting halo remake which isn't even confirmed to exist never mind TBA 2011 so if we count them without your bias we have 14 to 22 and the majority of the 360 games are just kinect shovelware from 3rd parties ps3 has alot more games coming out in 2011 and most of them are very high quality same can't be said for 360 and you say some ps3 games might get delayed while some ps3 games might also come out that we haven't heard about or aren't confirmed yet you are pretending the ps3 list can't grow