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Fededx said:
How could he sell something that was given to him AS A GIFT! That's rude...

If something is truly a gift, there are no strings attached whatsoever.   If I obligate someone to keep it after giving it to him, then it is NOT a gift because I placed a stipulation on it.  Gifts are FREE.



Hackers are poor nerds who don't wash.

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MaxwellGT2000 said:
*shrug* I've told people before that it's rather stupid to sell any console unless a new one that plays the old games comes out.

People sell their consoles for other consoles everyday that's how Gamestop lives and breathes if I went "ZOMG NO HE DIDN'T!" Every time it happened I wouldn't have time to live out a normal life.

To be honest I hope it wasn't a choice made by stupidity and ignorance like I've seen happen so often. Hell I tried telling this guy before he traded in his Wii he should probably play some of the good games he didn't even bother with, stopped working at gamestop, became friends with his nephew went over to his house where I was working on my friends Wii and the guy came in, wondering what we were doing, we were talking about all the cool games coming out/already out, he went "really? there were all those games?" then when he was standing there I went online with the wifi connection on the Wii and he went "that thing has a web browser too?" (he has a 360) and then stated how he needed to "get another Wii apparently" and I brought up where I told him to not sell it lol now he's out about 150 dollars, I hope it was worth it lol

This is such a common occurence. On this very forum there was a thread started by a guy who wanted to sell his Wii and someone else jumped into the the thread defending his decision and I clearly explained that the Wii has plenty of great games, you just have to rely a lot on the internet as opposed to brick and mortar to find some of the good games. Since let's be honest, a lot of the third-party "core" Wii games (Nintendo first-party being an exception unless it's Fire Emblem or something niche like that) don't exactly get a lot of shelf space.

But I've already went over how easy it is to go to amazon.com, gamestop.com, bestbuy.com, ebay.com and make a simple search (and yes you will find what you are looking for at these places. Finding Fragile Dreams and other niche games like that is not hard). But then I get the "but I can just go to GameStop and buy what I want for the PS3 and Xbox 360. Why do I have to even put in extra effort to get good Wii games? It's not worth it!" As if making a simple internet search is more of a hassle than driving to a GameStop and back to buy a game.

Most self-proclaimed "hardcore gamers" who are Pro-PS3 and/or Xbox 360 and anti-Wii are a product of marketing and hype machines. If the game isn't advertised well enough, it might as well not exist to them. They don't want to go out of their comfort zone (relying on media hype to tell them what to buy) to go try out a niche game that they may very well like.

In my opinion, a "hardcore gamer" is someone who spends more time than usual on their gaming hobby. The notion that "hardcore gaming" is about consuming heavily advertised, heavily commercialized video games is absurd. In my opinion, playing No More Heroes or Muramasa is more hardcore than playing God of War III or Splinter Cell Conviction. The former two are geared towards the niche gamer. The latter two are geared towards mainstream gamers.

Also many of the so-called "shovelware" games on the Wii may not even really be shovelware if one gave it a chance. Just Dance for one may very well be a fun game. And Wii Sports in my opinion is good for what it is. A pack-in party game collection that comes free with your Wii.



I'd be more pissed that he sold the gift you gave him.

I'd have a few choice words for that guy!



My brother has this habbit where he buys a PSP, plays it, and a few months later he gets rid of it.

His first PSP he bought didn't last; he gave it to a freind
He got a second one; didnt last, so he gave it to a cousin in mexico

I stumbled upon a PSP from a box full of things that a friend of my mom gave to her. My brother came to visit, saw it, and took it even though I saw it first. He sold that one.

He bought Modern warfare 2. He traded it in for another PSP. So far he still has this one but only time will tell. He also has the tendency to sell every game he buys after finishing it. The exceptions are Arkham Asylum, GOW Collection, and GOW III



I don't think you should feel that way and here is why:

Let's just say that there is a 4th console called ''Barbie''. In this console you can only play barbie games. A friend/cousin of yours gives you this console as a gift. You appreciate the gift, but you don't like any barbie games. So what do you do? let it collect dust or try to make the most of it by selling it? If you sell it, then you can buy something you actually like, but if you keep it, it will be a total waste, as you do not like it at all. And since it is an expensive gift it is a shame to keep it and not use it at all. If it was an expensive pen, it would be wrong to sell it, because you can use it.
Of course I'm not implying that the Wii does not have any good games, but instead that he may not like any games on the wii.

Something similar happened to me a year ago. I bought a really expensive dress for a friend of mine, but she decided to return it and get a different one from the same shop. She explained that she doesn't wear short dresses, and the one I got for her, was a bit short. Now, had she kept it, she would never wear it or feel comfortable wearing it. So, should have I been mad at her? I was actually glad, when she told me that, because I knew that she got somethig she liked and that's the reason of giving gifts. Making people happy, not yourself.



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naruball said:
I don't think you should feel that way and here is why:

Let's just say that there is a 4th console called ''Barbie''. In this console you can only play barbie games. A friend/cousin of yours gives you this console as a gift. You appreciate the gift, but you don't like any barbie games. So what do you do? let it collect dust or try to make the most of it by selling it? If you sell it, then you can buy something you actually like, but if you keep it, it will be a total waste, as you do not like it at all. And since it is an expensive gift it is a shame to keep it and not use it at all. If it was an expensive pen, it would be wrong to sell it, because you can use it.
Of course I'm not implying that the Wii does not have any good games, but instead that he may not like any games on the wii.

Something similar happened to me a year ago. I bought a really expensive dress for a friend of mine, but she decided to return it and get a different one from the same shop. She explained that she doesn't wear short dresses, and the one I got for her, was a bit short. Now, had she kept it, she would never wear it or feel comfortable wearing it. So, should have I been mad at her? I was actually glad, when she told me that, because I knew that she got somethig she liked and that's the reason of giving gifts. Making people happy, not yourself.

It varys case by case, in the situation with the dress, she recieved it as a gift and was thankful for it, but unfortunately it was the wrong size, so she exchanged it for a new one, nothing wrong with that. In the case with the barbie console, it's a present under the tree, you have no idea what you are getting and in this case it REALL sucks, probably from a friend you don't really like to much, you can say you got rid of it because you hate barbie.

 

In THIS  case, he gave his friend a Wii "here is a Wii" he took it KNOWING that he was going to sell it, that is an ass hole move. If you know you are going to sell something you don't accept the gift. If someone walked up to me with a TV, but I already had a TV or was saving up for a better one, I wouldn't accept it because i'd feel like an ass hole, if he asked the person giving the Wii to him "hey you know i'm just going to sell it" he would probably take the Wii to someone who was actually going to enjoy it.

 

There is no universal rule for things like this, it's a blurry line and you can't invent a case that would obviously sound reasonable to prove that another case would be perfectly fine. You have to draw the line based on the given facts, and it's not that easy.



"It varys case by case, in the situation with the dress, she recieved it as a gift and was thankful for it, but unfortunately it was the wrong size, so she exchanged it for a new one, nothing wrong with that. In the case with the barbie console, it's a present under the tree, you have no idea what you are getting and in this case it REALL sucks, probably from a friend you don't really like to much, you can say you got rid of it because you hate barbie."

Oh, sorry I wasn't very specific. She got a totally different dress. Initially she went to get the same dress, but longer, but then she saw something she lked much more. So, since she is happier with that choice, I'm happier too.
Also, maybe when he got the Wii, he thought that he would actually like it. Maybe he tried a couple of games and did not have much fun. The same thing happened to me. I got a Wii, because of the hype; I even bought a few games (SMG, Naruto: CNR, Wii Fit etc.) but I did not like them as much as I thought I would. Therefore, if someone were to give me a wii as a gift before buying one, I woulb be thrilled, but after playing games on it I know that although it has many awesome game, I don't have much fun playing them.



Wait a second, OP, you said he was saving up for a PS3. What is he? Fucking five? Tell his ass to get a job and get both. Only kids save up for videogame crap.



novasonic said:
My friend got a DS at launch and traded it in later to help pay for a PSP. I told him he was dead to me. He did later get a DS again. I said 'haha you douche' and then we made love in the moonlight. I love happy endings.

lol

 

As for the topic, I don't really see anything wrong with it. Nothing wrong with exchanging a gift you don't like right? 



Fededx said:
How could he sell something that was given to him AS A GIFT! That's rude...

it is far less rude than the gift giver believing that the recipient must hold onto it forever. 

 

but that distracts from the main point that if you are disheartened because someone has lost interest in a product you enjoy and prefers another, you may have severe emotional problems that need to be chekced out because such personalizing of a brand to that extent isn't healthy and is beyond the normal realm of brand allegiance.