I don't think MGS4 will be early next year, and I don't think Sony will lower the price again, especially if it is early next year. But I'm done trying to understand Sony.

Still, if they had no other option, you're simply saying what we're saying: they were and are desperate. Sure, you're making it sound better and a lot wiser, but it's the same thing. Plus, I never said it was the wrong decision, in particular given that it's somewhat paying off. I just don't think they can keep doing over and over, and still expect to ever make the PS3 a profitable operation.

DMeisterJ, you are coming off just a little vindictive over this whole issue. From what I can see, you did tell Zucas to leave the forums if he was going to badmouth them, implying that the things he was saying were badmouthing the forums. If anything, it seemed more like he was bashing famitsu's numbers, and merely questioning VGChartz reasons for switching to their numbers. I dunno if this was a defensive response to having your thunder stolen or what, but it is coming off that way a bit to me.

The way I see it, if PS3 even managed to come within a reasonable percentage of the Wii in japan, just the simple increase in sales by any means is an accomplishment. Wii is still outselling the PS3 in terms of global sales, so as a Wii supporter, I'm not really concerned by it.

The question I'm still waiting to see answered is how long PS3 will be able to maintain the sale rate that they have achieved. The first week or so seemed to be as much people running out and buying the 60GB PS3 before they ran out of the stock. The second week might have been a combination, but a 3rd week of sales that are in the same range as the Wii sales shows signs of some permanence being achieved by the cheaper priced PS3.

Still, that doesn't mean PS3 is winning against Wii. It is still trailing in global sales, and as people have pointed out, even with it outselling Wii in japan, it's not going to catch up with Wii's numbers anytime soon.

I'll give it a golf clap, but this is hardly going to turn the tides of the console wars.

 I can't see the logic behind you saying this is 'hardly' going to turn the tides; as if to suggest this has no impact. 5 months ago, the Wii was outselling the ps3 6 to 1 in japan, now that situation has disappeared and the PS3 appears to be holding its own, selling moderately more or moderately less - at least within 5-10k of the Wii, above or below depending on which figures you trust. To me, thats a massive turnaround. 

 Whether or not this carries on through to christmas and beyond is yet to be seen, but its definately the beginning of a turn in the console wars, thats not to suggest the Wii is doomed, but its not as strong as it once was. 

This thread is about Japan not about the bloody 360 will you forget your obsessions ?

 By the way ,when the data is adjusted sometime in the future you will clearly see it was a lot more than 400 units .Just like last week for example but in a bigger scale .

Strictly speaking about Japan the gap between the Wii and PS3 is 2.42 million units. If the PS3 continues to beat the Wii by an average of 9,000 units a week it will take exactly 22.4 years for the PS3 to catch the Wii just in Japan. However, since the Wii outsells the PS3 WW by 3:1 the Wii is in no danger at all anyway. It's funny how Sony fans think a a 3 week run of outselling by a few thousand units in the smallest, most insignificant market is a big win or something, LOL...

I don't think profit is at the foremost at Sony's plans right now. If Sony try and turn profit next year then they can kiss competeing with the 360 goodbye. It's a decision that the company has to make but something will be sacrificed due to errors made in the past. What's worse for Sony: Losing millions on profit or losing all the 3rd party franchises and market share you worked so hard to get? This year Sony choose the latter, as it was S-E/Konami that forced the price drop and 40GB.

They will drop the price because they HAVE to. Games like Killzone 2 and Gran Turismo 5 will be the money spinners for Sony, not the hardware and that is what Sony should be aiming at.

If S-E drop Sony support then Sony are dead in the water. Simple as that and Sony know it.

Your english arent you.

Apparently you don't speak english since like most un-educated people on the internet you spell "you're" as "your"...

As it stands, the 1st week that the PS3 outsold the Wii by 22K, the 2nd week was 11K, this 3rd week was a mere 9K, implying that while the PS3 did manage to outsell the Wii for these 3 weeks, the amount that it is outselling by is decreasing with each week. If the amount that it outsold the Wii by INCREASED each week, then yes, this would imply a turning of tides, but this is merely a stutter in the tides before they return to their normal direction.

Also, Wii is currently standing on close to 4 Million total consoles in Japan, whereas PS3 is standing on roughly 1.5 Million consoles, even if the PS3 maintains its peak selling rate of 22K above the Wii, it will still take over 2 years to catch up to the Wii(110 weeks), and if we go by its average selling rate of 14K above the Wii then it would take over 3 years to catch up(173 weeks). It will not be until that point at which you could say that a turning of the tides has been achieved.

But that's ONLY in japan. The past 3 weeks that the PS3 has been leading in Japan, it has sold a cumulative 42K greater than the Wii has. In every other region, Wii is leading in sales. Heck, in Europe alone, in just 1 week, Wii outsold PS3 by 52K, which pretty much completely negates any advantage the PS3 may have gained in Japan. So in terms of global sales, there hasn't even been a change in the tide at ALL.

I'm not saying that this isn't a significant accomplishment for the PS3. Just that you do need to recognize the fact that it is a very localized and limited accomplishment when compared to the long term and global view of the console war. Tides may have been slowed, shifted, paused, or resisted, but this does not yet qualify for a full out "turned"