Mnementh said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:
As I said before, XBox360 had no impact on PS2 sales. It had quite a bit of an impact on PS3 sales. Your argument that "Switch does not compete directly with Playstation and XBox" is not a good one. When the XBox360 was released it did not compete with the PS2. A person could have said "XBox360 does not compete with Playstation, therefore it won't compete with PS3". That person would be dead wrong.
Let's put it this way. If Scarlett came out this year, it wouldn't affect PS4 sales either. Understand? When Scarlett actually does release next year it also won't affect PS4 sales. Does that mean that Playstation and XBox don't directly compete?
In the same way, the data in this thread does not suggest that Switch and PS5 don't compete.
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Yeah, that is right. But you have no data or basis either to claim that Switch and PS5 will compete. For the moment this is just unclear. We can speculate. Extrapolating from the current gen is one way. Another is to use logical conclusions. But either way: we don't know until it will release.
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You kind of have a point and you kind of don't. Right now people are having trouble understanding things on a 100 level, so I'm not going to bother trying to talk on a 400 level.
Right now, me and curl-6 are disagreeing about reasoning on a 100 level. Specifically, if a person has a hypothesis, then how do they know if the data reinforces or rejects the hypothesis. Curl-6 and I have two different views, and both of us expect that the Switch will not affect PS4 sales. That is why the data in this thread is irrelevant to both of our views. To put it in historical terms:
The PS2 launched in 2000 and the DS launched in 2004. Every DS sold had no effect on PS2 sales after 2004. Likewise, the DS had no effect on PS3 sales either. The DS and all Playstations did not compete directly and in fact were in different markets. This situation is very similar to curl-6's view of the PS4, Switch and PS5.
Also, the PS2 launched in 2000 and the XBox360 launched in 2005. Every XBox360 sold had no effect on PS2 sales after 2005. However, the XBox360 had a very dramatic effect upon PS3 sales. The XBox360 was competing with the PS3, but not the PS2. XBox does compete directly with Playstation, but the XBox360 won't affect the sales of system launched several years prior. This situation is very similar to my view of the PS4, Switch and PS5.
What is important to know is that neither the DS or the XBox360 affected the sales of the PS2. That is why the data in this thread does not support either my view or curl-6's view. Curl-6 sees the Switch like the DS and I see it like the XBox360, but either way its success won't affect the sales performance of the PS4.
Also, I do have deeper reasons to justify why I am right, but I'm not going to bother discussing them until we have a more basic understanding on how to interpret data.