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Ajescent on 26 May 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
Ajescent said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Ps4 can't handle used games like it sounds like that MS will handle it. I suggest you just cross that outta the OP right now. Ps4 will not require online so how do you expect people without online to register their game to their account?


PS4 won't handle used games the same way as the One but EA seem to be supporting the ps4, which leads me to believe that they have something not necessarily bad but "satisfying" to EA. Since we don't know what it is, we can't assuming it's consumer friendly.

Additionally, I think Sony's true stance on the thing will be known once we find out what they want their first party to do.

Because EA, a company that supports every manufacturer, is supporting the ps4 we should assume the ps4 will stop used games? Thats some silly thought process.


EA said it's no longer supporting Nintendo

Many assume it's because of their stance on blocking using games.



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Max King of the Wild on 26 May 2013
Ajescent said:
Max King of the Wild said:
At the very most the Ps4 could only do what they've done with the Ps3. And by their comments its the most reasonable conclusion to make. Online passes.

Also, why should we assume anything about used games like we should for X1? That's just insanely silly.... We had leaks and news concerning this for the X1 for months and haven't heard a peep about it for the ps4... so again, why should we talk about a non issue?


Worst case scenario.

Sony are terrible at keeping secrets but once in a while, they succeed. what if, this one time they succeed it's the worst news imaginable?

there is no reason to think that though and since thats the case there is no reason to talk about it. No one is giving Sony a free pass concerning it.



Max King of the Wild on 26 May 2013
Ajescent said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Ajescent said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Ps4 can't handle used games like it sounds like that MS will handle it. I suggest you just cross that outta the OP right now. Ps4 will not require online so how do you expect people without online to register their game to their account?


PS4 won't handle used games the same way as the One but EA seem to be supporting the ps4, which leads me to believe that they have something not necessarily bad but "satisfying" to EA. Since we don't know what it is, we can't assuming it's consumer friendly.

Additionally, I think Sony's true stance on the thing will be known once we find out what they want their first party to do.

Because EA, a company that supports every manufacturer, is supporting the ps4 we should assume the ps4 will stop used games? Thats some silly thought process.


EA said it's no longer supporting Nintendo

Many assume it's because of their stance on blocking using games.

You are extremely misinformed.



Birimbau on 26 May 2013

None of them will stop used games, but they'll find a way of developers make money with used.



S.T.A.G.E. on 26 May 2013

No ones giving the PS4 a free pass. They focus on games and thus are considered the more gamer centric console. Microsoft was given a free pass because they focus too much on entertainment. They spent their time during the convention addressing the non-gaming audience and the mass media and gave the gamers a couple of pre-rendered videos for their trouble.



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Ajescent on 26 May 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
Ajescent said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Ajescent said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Ps4 can't handle used games like it sounds like that MS will handle it. I suggest you just cross that outta the OP right now. Ps4 will not require online so how do you expect people without online to register their game to their account?


PS4 won't handle used games the same way as the One but EA seem to be supporting the ps4, which leads me to believe that they have something not necessarily bad but "satisfying" to EA. Since we don't know what it is, we can't assuming it's consumer friendly.

Additionally, I think Sony's true stance on the thing will be known once we find out what they want their first party to do.

Because EA, a company that supports every manufacturer, is supporting the ps4 we should assume the ps4 will stop used games? Thats some silly thought process.


EA said it's no longer supporting Nintendo

Many assume it's because of their stance on blocking using games.

You are extremely misinformed.

Then what's the truth?



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Xbox One: What are you doing Dave?

Kantor on 26 May 2013
Ajescent said:


EA said it's no longer supporting Nintendo

Many assume it's because of their stance on blocking using games.

More likely because they don't think that install base is going to get them enough sales to develop for an entirely different set of specifications.



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Fifaguy360 on 26 May 2013

I dont think the PS4 is getting a free pass. I think it's because MS has more or less confirmed the worst via Phil Harrison and Sony has yet to say anything...is giving MS the bad press for the time being.

Time will tell if Sony is in the same boat. And if it is...there's going to be a shit storm part 2 ...twice as big...double the trouble....and so on...



Kantor on 26 May 2013

I agree with you to an extent. We have no evidence at all that the PS4 won't have used game blocking and always-on cameras and such.

What we do know is that their conference focused on games, that they are clearly trying to target exactly the groups of people who are opposed to those sorts of features, and as such that it would be extremely foolish to include them.

That's not to say that they won't include them, only that people don't want to consider that they will.



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arcelonious on 26 May 2013

Until Sony reveals all of their cards, people are only going to base their impressions off of what information we currently have on the PS4. So far they've said that they're working on creating a more developer-friendly console, reaching out to indie developers, releasing exclusives, believing that streaming and sharing will become a more integral part of gaming, and more generally, that gaming will be their focus, which are ideas that aren't really controversial in any way.

With that said, people are definitely waiting to see more information, especially regarding pricing, the blocking of used games, always-online requirements, whether or not online multiplayer remains free, and so on.  I'm almost certain that someone who is against always online, the blocking of used games, or pay-to-play-online is going to be disappointed if Sony follows Microsoft in these regards, and will likely gravitate towards PC or Nintendo.