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Yeah I sort of agree. If the PS4 blocks used games then people will just go on to say that at least it doesn't have to be online once a day. Either way, I don't mind if the consoles block used games but I really don't like the online once a day with the Xbox One and I'm angry that MS still wants to charge for Xbox Live. If Sony charges for multiplayer as well then I will have to get a WiiU only (unless MS or Sony have an amazing exclusive).



    

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Max King of the Wild said:
Adinnieken said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Ps4 can't handle used games like it sounds like that MS will handle it. I suggest you just cross that outta the OP right now. Ps4 will not require online so how do you expect people without online to register their game to their account?

One of Sony's patent's that they were awarded was for a disc scheme that included a writable section of disc.  Instead of or inaddition to the embedded chip.

The way the scheme works is that on a layer of disc would be a writable section, allowing the disc to write user information, such as an account and machine ID.  Thus, locking a disc specifically to a user and a machine.  You don't need an always online connection.  You don't need to phone home.  The user wouldn't know the difference until they bought a disc installed it to their PS4, and then attempted to install it on someone else's console.

I remember that old patent that isn't the first of its kind that has never been used.... which the Gamestops claims pretty much dismiss

Old?  It was awarded late last year.  It isn't old.



tbh i agree while i do find many of the gifs amusing

there's no denying that there're a lot of assumptions being made with regards to the ps4



Trunkin said:
Areym said:
I agree. It dawned on me a few days ago that Sony was gonna leave it up to the developers and it worries me just as much as the Xbox one. I have gamefly and I enjoy the service as well as trading and swapping games with friends so this directly affects me and my gaming experience.

I can only hope the developers have the good sense to sacrifice a few sale numbers in order to build up an audience. I mean, a gamer buying a used game today maybe become a day 1 the next time around.

Gamefly offers PC game rentals, right? Hopefully they'll be able to manage something similar with M$(and Sony?). Perhaps they'll get their own specialized "rental" discs?

Gamefly has a PC download service.

PC preowned and rentals (if they ever existed) are dead. Most games use tied to the user via account based activation.



It's a twisted situation. On one hand you could have used game blocking through the internet, on the other hand some disk marker/writing tech. What happens if the console dies? You would still have to somehow register the game over the internet at least once and thus make the disk redundant. I lost my urge to collect games with this new policies.



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I would say so as we don't know everything about PS4 yet. It could either be the greatest console ever made (from what we know so far) or it could end up being better than the Xbox One. The online issue and second hand gaming issue could we really kill off any hope for PS4. I just hope we never get that with PS4 at least, what a disaster it would be if all 3 consoles had major backlash or lack of interest. It would be the 2nd console crash, quite a scary though



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ListerOfSmeg said:
Sony always gets a free pass from their fans.
2006 motion controls are going to ruin the industry
2008 Sony announces Move
60 seconds after Move announcement. OMG motion controls are hardcore
Nintendo brings touchscreens to gaming. OMG tochscreens are for casuals
VIta shows to have a touchscreen. IMG touchscreens are hardcore
Wii U has touchpad. Its useless. PS4 has a tiny touchpad that is useless. Gretest hardcore advancement of the last decade.
Just wait til Sony announces a used game policy similar to MS and watch them give Sony a free pass.


Sony started the motion control trend in that 6th generation launching the Eyetoy in 2004 and starting on the move in 2004 since they realized a camera isn't enough to control the gaming process. Sony did not get commercially behind the the Eyetoy. 



Chark said:

PS4 isn't getting a free pass if they do a lot of the stuff rumored/confirmed for X1.

If it does it too, it will receive its due.
If used games it permit, the console is legit.

 

EDIT: I actually am thinking Sony might have a used game policy. Since they claim the PS4 doesn't need the internet they can't do it like MS supposedly is. Instead they might have the PS4 disks be rewritable and allow for the PS4 to imprint a code to lock it to the console. Not only would this allow for the ability to install on the harddrive without disk playback, but also allow for the game to be unlocked by paying a fee. It is similar to online passes, but for the whole of the game content. So say for $10 someone could unlock a game they are buying from a friend or used game store. Sure they'd need internet to unlock it, unless stores can unlock them similar to how they will be unlocking X1 games. For what this theory suggests for physical copies, it is very similar to X1, except it doesn't require internet which is an issue with X1.

Honestly, I hope they just keep things the same this gen. People are upset by online passes, but that is way more fair than any of this. Online passes target games that can take up server bandwidth and leaves single player alone. The PS4 will have everygame digital day one, just like the Vita, and Vita has seen a very promising 15-30% digital purchase rate compared to the typical 5-10% on PS3. One reason I like Sony this gen is that they have taken the approach of providing attractive optional services instead of enforcing everyone down a path. Letting consumers decide on paying for a subscription service and providing both physical and digital options, lets hope they stick with that philosophy.

This, it was much better. Are publishers THAT greedy, if they are, might stop right now and stick to 3ds vita