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Can expect the release to be late next year, (almost 2 years) by that time the Navi 10 and Navi 10 lite will drop in price which will significantly lower the overall price of the console.



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This new type of SSD technology (possibly soldered directly into the PS5) and that it's so much faster than current SSD technology we have today is the most interesting bit of news here.
Developers can then create games designed for SSD in mind, which isn't a thing today.

It'll be interesting to see the effect this has on the kind of worlds that can be built now.
This may very well be a bigger leap than the graphics.

I am very curious now what the price of the PS5 will be though. Will they really go for a price above $400? That seems quite risky.
On the other hand, if they manage to make all this cost 400, it'll be mind blowing.

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Sounds cool...though I’m not sure how 8K will be that much different than 4K and how it’ll enhance gameplay...

Plus the pricing for this supposed machine...if it’s $400 or more, I’ll gladly wait until a price drop. I waited for the PS4 to drop to $250 before buying. Thus I’ll have no problem waiting for the right price with the PS5.



For everyone that thinks the price will be too much...

1. The PS3's $600 price tag is $750 in today's money. Inflation is a thing.

2. 360 launched a year earlier for $400 and $300. Wii launched alongside it for $250 with a free game packed in. There's not going to be a $300 XB2 model. Nintendo won't launch alongside them this time.

3. PS2 had been price cut to $129 when PS3 launched. This meant that early adopters weren't able to get much out of selling their PS2 once upgrading to the $600 PS3 launch model. PS4 Pro will likely still be worth $200 used when the PS5 launches. I don't see the Pro being price cut to below $300.

4. PS3 games ran worse then 360 games. I don't see XB2 running better than PS5.

5. 360 had a better library for the first two years. This time around the PS5 is likely to have the better library, since Sony has spent over a decade building up their 1st party developers.

6. PC gaming wasn't quite as popular back in 2006. Nowadays a lot of people spend $1000 on a PC. So a $600 console doesn't seem like such an extravagance in this day and age. 

7. The economy is much better than it was in 2006. It's unlikely that we will see a recession in 2022, like we did in 2008. 

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https://www.alternate.be/Seagate/BarraCuda-2-TB-Harde-schijf/html/product/1307667?lk=6075

85€, the 60€ was a desktop one not a laptop.

Even though the article don't exactly dispel the HDD/SSD combo, it's just clear it will be a SSD only.

€55.5

HollyGamer said:
Zkuq said:
Sounds good so far. Well, I'm a bit skeptical about the SSD part because of what is still a fairly painful capacity-price ratio, but it's not terrible anymore and it's only going to get better.

I think it it will be a dedicated nand flash drive that attach to the motherboard and only using small amount of size (32 - 64 ) . So it wont affect main HDD. And they will probably still using normal HDD to store the game.  

It's over, this is from eurogamer:

"We had heard a while back that PlayStation 5 was developed around a state-of-the-art solid-state storage solution (1TB of capacity was the rumour)"



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HollyGamer said:

Why Mark Cerny are confident when he Said "it will be more faster then normal SSD on PC today's standard (including NVMe )",  because all application/ software that made on PC until today never made with SSD in mind. Means PS5 games and software will be a new standard for next gen games to be made with SSD in mind.

As PC gamer who already using SSD i am glad that we will finally able to utilize SSD and have some benefit to have one , that's why console is very important to gaming Industries as a whole. Because we are stuck on HDD standar for a long time. If console start to make one , PC will follow .

You are absolutely right.

This is the thing I always find funny. We see people argue all the time that we will never need this or that, and then we have people run tests on PC and say, "see, all this extra stuff does nothing, we don't need it".

It blows me away that still in 2019 people don't understand that if software is not developed to take advantage of 8 Cores, 128 GB of RAM, or a 3GB/s Storage solution, that they are not going to see gains. If the software is only optimized for 2 Cores, only expecting 8GB of RAM, and the files are not structured to take advantage of 3GB/s, then you are not going to see significant gains.

PS5 and XB4 are absolutely going to push PC forward, just like console have always down. They set a new baseline. So far, it looks like we are going to have a very nice new baseline this time around!



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Using SSDs for next generation sure is great, but it also comes at a cost. If they aim to achive 4k and even 8k gaming the assets are going to be MASSIVE.
So the internal SSD would need quite a few TB of space or else you can only keep a few games at a time.

Which also makes me wonder what kind of optical disk they are going to use.
What kind of Blue-Rays are currently in use for PS4 games?

Anyway things are starting to get interesting. Looking forward to Microsofts answer at E3.



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Cerebralbore101 said:

For everyone that thinks the price will be too much...

1. The PS3's $600 price tag is $750 in today's money. Inflation is a thing.

2. 360 launched a year earlier for $400 and $300. Wii launched alongside it for $250 with a free game packed in. There's not going to be a $300 XB2 model. Nintendo won't launch alongside them this time.

3. PS2 had been price cut to $129 when PS3 launched. This meant that early adopters weren't able to get much out of selling their PS2 once upgrading to the $600 PS3 launch model. PS4 Pro will likely still be worth $200 used when the PS5 launches. I don't see the Pro being price cut to below $300.

4. PS3 games ran worse then 360 games. I don't see XB2 running better than PS5.

5. 360 had a better library for the first two years. This time around the PS5 is likely to have the better library, since Sony has spent over a decade building up their 1st party developers.

6. PC gaming wasn't quite as popular back in 2006. Nowadays a lot of people spend $1000 on a PC. So a $600 console doesn't seem like such an extravagance in this day and age. 

7. The economy is much better than it was in 2006. It's unlikely that we will see a recession in 2022, like we did in 2008. 

Great points. Sony will be in much better shape going into PS5 than they were going into PS3. Even with all of its road blocks PS3 still ended up selling 85M+. PS5 at $499.99 should have no problems being a huge success. I think that is the magic number for a base console going into next gen. If Sony and Microsoft want to try and push prices higher, they will need to do it through premium models. I do believe there is room for $1,000+ consoles, but it has to be a smooth transition to getting people comfortable of looking at consoles as a premium experience, and being more than just gaming machines. We are slowly, but surely getting there.



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deskpro2k3 said:
Can expect the release to be late next year, (almost 2 years) by that time the Navi 10 and Navi 10 lite will drop in price which will significantly lower the overall price of the console.

Sony co-developed navi with amd, and co developed ssd drive. In some way they own the technology, so i dont think they need to wait for prices to drop. In a bizzare way i can see Microsoft paying royalities in some way for Navi tech. We don't really know what the agreement is between Sony and Amd on Navi tech.



Music to my ears. Most interested in that SSD. Can they afford to make it a purely solid state system or will it be a hybrid setup?

Also love hearing more about 3D audio (and using ray tracing for it). Sound design hasn't kept up with visuals at all. It needs to be physically rendered just like other elements. Should do wonders for stealth and multiplayer games and reduce the reliance on your hud.