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My take on the second night of debates…

Joe Biden: "Anyways, my time is up."

Kamala Harris: She was on fire! Seriously. That was awesome. Over both nights, she used her chance the best of all candidates.

Kirsten Gillibrand: "Senator Sanders and I..." Kirsten Gillibrand did multiple times spoke about her working together with Sanders, supporting the same plan, that she wrote parts of his medicare-bill. I was surprised by this. Apparently Gillibrand uses Sanders as a way to show herself as progressive (as progressive as Sanders), while present herself as younger and female.

Beside these, most of them did not move the scale much. It still will help the lesser known candidates, as it did last night, but I doubt bigger movements. But Biden might lose his frontrunner status and Harris might move up.



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Mnementh said:

My take on the second night of debates…

Joe Biden: "Anyways, my time is up."

Kamala Harris: She was on fire! Seriously. That was awesome. Over both nights, she used her chance the best of all candidates.

Kirsten Gillibrand: "Senator Sanders and I..." Kirsten Gillibrand did multiple times spoke about her working together with Sanders, supporting the same plan, that she wrote parts of his medicare-bill. I was surprised by this. Apparently Gillibrand uses Sanders as a way to show herself as progressive (as progressive as Sanders), while present herself as younger and female.

Beside these, most of them did not move the scale much. It still will help the lesser known candidates, as it did last night, but I doubt bigger movements. But Biden might lose his frontrunner status and Harris might move up.

When you look at bills Senators have voted for Gillibrand is ranked as the most progressive senator.



jason1637 said:
Mnementh said:

My take on the second night of debates…

Joe Biden: "Anyways, my time is up."

Kamala Harris: She was on fire! Seriously. That was awesome. Over both nights, she used her chance the best of all candidates.

Kirsten Gillibrand: "Senator Sanders and I..." Kirsten Gillibrand did multiple times spoke about her working together with Sanders, supporting the same plan, that she wrote parts of his medicare-bill. I was surprised by this. Apparently Gillibrand uses Sanders as a way to show herself as progressive (as progressive as Sanders), while present herself as younger and female.

Beside these, most of them did not move the scale much. It still will help the lesser known candidates, as it did last night, but I doubt bigger movements. But Biden might lose his frontrunner status and Harris might move up.

When you look at bills Senators have voted for Gillibrand is ranked as the most progressive senator.

Yeah, I can see that, but Sanders is often perceived (and probably rightfully so) as the progressive star. It seems like a good strategy for Gillibrand to clear up, that she is similarly progressive. And explaining policy is time-consuming. By saying "Senator Sanders and I" she pretty much and fast clears up where she stands. And by the way: last night I felt like she defended Sanders policies more energetic, than he himself did.



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Mnementh said:
jason1637 said:

When you look at bills Senators have voted for Gillibrand is ranked as the most progressive senator.

Yeah, I can see that, but Sanders is often perceived (and probably rightfully so) as the progressive star. It seems like a good strategy for Gillibrand to clear up, that she is similarly progressive. And explaining policy is time-consuming. By saying "Senator Sanders and I" she pretty much and fast clears up where she stands. And by the way: last night I felt like she defended Sanders policies more energetic, than he himself did.

Doesn't she risk looking like she is just riding his coat tails, or can't do anything without him, ect.

Kind of risky by tossing another contenders name in all of your achievements or viewpoints. Why should one vote for her instead of Sanders.



irstupid said:
Mnementh said:

Yeah, I can see that, but Sanders is often perceived (and probably rightfully so) as the progressive star. It seems like a good strategy for Gillibrand to clear up, that she is similarly progressive. And explaining policy is time-consuming. By saying "Senator Sanders and I" she pretty much and fast clears up where she stands. And by the way: last night I felt like she defended Sanders policies more energetic, than he himself did.

Doesn't she risk looking like she is just riding his coat tails, or can't do anything without him, ect.

Kind of risky by tossing another contenders name in all of your achievements or viewpoints. Why should one vote for her instead of Sanders.

Yeah, that's why I probably was surprised, because I usually don't see people do that.



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First post debate poll from Maine..

RIP Beto.



Williamson seems to be the surprising star of last night. Can the power of love really win the day? She won over a lot of hearts!



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First post debate national poll. Harris is up +8.7% and Biden down -10. Castro, Warren, and Sanders saw a moderate boost. Yang, Inslee, Buttigieg, Beto, and Booker took a hit.



Out of the twenty, only five candidates have seen their unfavourable rates grow more than their favourable ones with the democratic voters: Beto O'Rourke, John Delaney, Joe Biden, Andrew Yang and Mariane Williamson. A poor showing for centrists and outsiders, it would seem.




 

 

 

 

 

jason1637 said:
First post debate national poll. Harris is up +8.7% and Biden down -10. Castro, Warren, and Sanders saw a moderate boost. Yang, Inslee, Buttigieg, Beto, and Booker took a hit.

Buttigieg and Booker went too hard on social justice, which is a mistake when Kamala Harris did it so much more effectively.

On economic progressivism, Bernie and Warren basically prevented much interest in Yang, Gillibrand, or Inslee.



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